In this episode, I have the pleasure to interview author Dr. John Jaquish.
Dr. John Jaquish began his experience in life sciences after being told by his
Mother that she had been diagnosed with osteoporosis. Dr. John Jaquish, in an
effort to help his mother, created a device that has since been placed in over
300 clinics worldwide.
has now helped over 30,000 individuals with their bone health. Dr. John Jaquish
is currently advancing osteogenic loading research and speaking worldwide about
its implications, as well as developing other biotechnology devices and products
that will aid in the advanced health and wellbeing of people all around the
Our conversation today is all about his book,
Weight Lifting Is a Waste of Time: So Is Cardio, and There’s a Better Way to Have the Body You Want
This podcast was recorded a few weeks ago and since it’s recording, I have
officially quit the gym and I am using his
X3 Bar resistance band training system
product. I am loving it. You
can stay updated on my progress through IG.
Please enjoy this amazing conversation with Dr. John Jaquish.
Full Transcript #
Nicholas: Hello, BookThinkers family, and welcome to episode number 35 of our
brand new podcast BookThinkers: Life-changing Books. During each episode I
interview one of the world’s top authors, and as a listener, you can expect to
discover new books, new mentors, and new resources that you can use to achieve
more and to live better. In this episode, I have the pleasure to switch things
up a little bit. We’re normally in the business and entrepreneurship space,
personal development, self-help. We’re going to move over into health and
wellness with Dr. John Jaquish. John began his experience in life sciences after
being told by his mother that she had been diagnosed with osteoporosis. So like
a good son, in an effort to help his mother, he actually created a device that
has now been placed in over 300 clinics worldwide that helps people diagnosed
helped over 30,000 individuals with their bone health, and Dr. Jaquish is
currently advancing Osteogenic Loading
research and speaking worldwide about its implications, as well as developing
other biotechnology devices, and products that will aid in the advanced health
and wellbeing of people all over the world. So he’s a super cool guy, super
accomplished, but today our conversation is all about his brand new book,
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
, with a subtitle that reads So is
Cardio, and There’s a Better Way to Have the Body You Want. So I had a little
bit of pushback against this book. I didn’t think I wanted to read it because it
essentially promises to replace the gym.
Nicholas: Now this podcast was recorded a few weeks ago, and since its
recording, I have officially quit the gym, and I was an avid gym goer, I love
the gym, for a lot of reasons, and I’m now using Dr. John Jaquish’s
X3 Bar variable resistance training system
product. This is not a
paid advertisement, I am a genuine user of the products now, and I’m loving it.
So you can stay updated on my progress through Instagram, but without further
ado, please enjoy this amazing conversation with Dr. John Jaquish. Dr. Jaquish,
thank you so much for joining the BookThinkers: Life-changing Books podcast
today. How are you doing, man?
Dr. John Jaquish: Nicholas, thanks. I’m doing great.
Nicholas: I’m excited for our conversation. So you are the author of
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
, So is Cardio, and There’s a Better
Way to Have the Body You Want. That is a very aggressive title, and I’m so happy
to have you on the show to address some of these things today.
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, I’m an aggressive guy, also I’m correct. I back it up
with a book. Anybody who reads the book… The people who hate the book are the
ones who just looked at the cover and they got mad, but fools like to think they
have all the answers.
Nicholas: Yeah, they do. Well one thing about books is that the more I read the
less I actually know about the world, so I’m excited to talk to you because you
actually do have some of the answers today. What is your background? Can you
tell everybody a little bit about yourself and who you are?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, I developed a medical device a little over 10 years ago
that treats osteoporosis, and I developed it specifically for my mother because
she had osteoporosis and osteoporotic fractures have a death rate similar to
breast cancer. So it’s a serious thing. It’s not as dramatic, because what
happens is you fracture a hip… The hip’s where you really don’t want to have a
break, and then it can’t heal right because you don’t have enough bone mass.
There’s not enough material. Also they can’t do an implant because it’s like
screwing into rotten wood. They get an implant in there to replace what was
broken, and then you’re bedridden for a long time, you get pneumonia or you get
bed sores, and then you ultimately die. There’s a 50% chance of death within the
year that you receive a fracture if you’re over 50. 50% chance over 50. That’s
terrifying. A really big deal. And people have fragility fractures all the time.
Nicholas: Yeah, that’s tough. So you entered the fitness industry because of
this, kind of, and I’d love to hear the story a little bit now, but before we
Dr. John Jaquish: [crosstalk 00:05:50] myself as being part of the fitness
industry at all. I never have. I mean, what industry? It’s just a bunch of
sideways hat clowns just screaming, misinformation that they think is right that
they heard from some guy at the gym or whatever. And a lot of the research never
makes it to them. For example, there’s 40 years of research that shows very
clearly the cardio is like the worst way to lose body fat. Yet you talked to a
personal trainer and they’re like, “Cardio’s for losing body fat.” What?
Nicholas: There was that line in the book about like, “If their salary depends
on it, then they’re never going to understand it,” or something like that.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. I suppose there’s some other reasons. There’s a lot of
incentive. Ultimately the business model of the gym is they’re selling you a
building full of stuff that you think is valuable, but you only think that.
Maybe not necessarily, if you want to be a marathon runner, you got to run, you
got to do cardio. There’s no way around it. But also you’re chronically
upregulating cortisol and that’s forcing you to lose muscle and it protects your
body fat. So it keeps you fatter longer, which last I checked, most people who
work out, that’s the last thing they want. So I always see guys who do, they’re
like, “Oh yeah, I do my strength training, and I do an hour of cardio.” And I’m
like, “You’re undoing everything you just did. Don’t do that.”
Nicholas: [crosstalk 00:05:50] victim of doing that for a long time, by the way.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, that’s what we were told. When I was a kid, I heard
that, and when I got my gym membership, when I first got my driver’s license, I
was 16. And all I wanted to do is go to gym. That’s all I cared about. And I
heard these things and I kind of thought, “Hmm… So you get blood in the
muscle, it’s recovering the muscle, muscle’s swollen, and then you go and do
cardio and you immediately evacuate that blood.” What if that blood is there for
a reason? I asked myself that question at 16. So I kind of always thought like,
“This is not really working.”
Dr. John Jaquish: Anyway, when I developed that medical device, it was very
clear that people could handle tremendous forces in the impact ready range of
motion. But this was a force that was way above. I had elderly deconditioned
post-menopausal women that were putting six or 700 pounds through their hip
joints voluntarily. That’s what they would compress the joint to. And that’s
incredible. People can’t put that kind of force typically through anything with
standard weightlifting equipment. So I just came to the conclusion when I looked
at the difference between the weaker range, the mid range, and the stronger
range, first of all, it’s not linear, there’s a curve, and that curve gets real
steep when you get to that 120 degree angle. For those watching, right here. The
120 degree, if I’m pushing away like this, that’s an incredible amount of force
I can create at the almost end of that movement. As soon as you get to the end,
the muscle actually shuts off. A lot of people don’t know that either.
Nicholas: Yeah, I read in the book, then you’re relying on bone most of the
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. It’s not of osteogenic levels anyway, so you’re really
just wasting your time. So yeah, I came to the conclusion, I’m looking at this
data, and I also knew I was the only one in the world that had this, because
there’s never been a test that’s quite like that. So while looking at the data,
I’m like, “I have data that shows that weightlifting sucks as a stimulus, and we
can come up with something better with a strong degree of variance.” But it has
to be the appropriate degrees. So there have been studies that were very
favorable where there’d be weights in bands on the bar as well, and people would
have X amount of weight at the bottom, and then 1.2 X at the top, but nobody
tried to figure out what level of variance was appropriate. And that’s the
information that I had.
Dr. John Jaquish: So I developed a device accordingly. The variance is provided
by latex, not petroleum rubber, which a lot of band products, they use petroleum
rubber, it’s about one 10th the cost, but it also stretches out, so the band
gets longer every time you use it. Latex doesn’t do that. And I looked at the
market, and there’s rehab bands like TheraBand, which is great, but that’s also
really geared for therapy, because those go to… I think the heaviest TheraBand
is 14 pounds at maximum stretch. So that’s not a strength workout for anyone.
Dr. John Jaquish: At first I thought I was going to write a book about bands,
and that was going to be it. I was just going to like, “Okay, get royalties from
the book.” But then I quickly realized you need hundreds of pounds. One thing
that people semi understand is when you want strength, there’s no getting away
from heavy. You can’t lift light and get stronger. Just doesn’t happen. So you
want to get as heavy as possible. So what I was going to come up with was a
strategy to get as much force to the muscle and not risk injury, or have the
risk be absolute minimum, because there’s a risk to anything. People fall off
their bicycles, so things can happen.
Dr. John Jaquish: But that’s where
came from. So I knew I needed
a bar. The bands got so heavy in order to make them effective in the way I knew
they needed to be, that if you use… If I use the band that I normally chest
press with and I threw it around my back and just wrapped it around my hands,
just tried to do a pushup, I’d probably break my wrists. Because it’s 540 pounds
that is twisting my wrist around. 540 pounds, you can’t do that. That wrist
joint not designed for that. And same thing with the ankles. If I try and do a
dead lift, my dead lift is 615 pounds with the X3 Bar
, I’d break an
ankle. The ankle does not like lateral force. The NFL players that I work with,
they’re very familiar. Lateral force in an ankle? No. So that’s where it came
Nicholas: And you have a little bit of a business background or innovation in
your blood. Your dad worked on the lunar rover and he has 300 patents in his
name, so it sounded like you were presented with this challenge for the
osteoporosis originally, your default was like, “Let’s find a solution here
rather than rely on the typical treatments at the time,” which a lot of side
effects and downside.
Dr. John Jaquish: My dad’s an interesting guy. When I went to undergrad, I was
like, “I want to do pre-med.” He says, “I’m not paying for that.” “Okay. Why?”
What he said was, “You don’t have patience for patients.” And he said, “You
can’t do that.” And I said, “Okay, kinesiology.” And he’s like, “No.” And I
said, “Well what will you pay for?” “Business.” “That’s the only thing?” “Yep.”
“Okay.” So that’s what I majored in. It’s cool because I was more interested in
playing rugby and joining a fraternity than really anything. It was good times.
Good times were here and school was right here. So yeah, I ended up having a
great time, majored in business.
Dr. John Jaquish: And then later on… My dad’s very stoic guy. He waited four
years telling me this. I was like, “Okay, I want to go to grad school.” He goes,
“Great. Get your MBA.” I’m like, “It’s not really what I had in mind.” He goes,
“Well, you want me to pay for it, right?” And I’m like, “Why are you so…” He
goes, “Look, I spent my best, most productive years creating value for
organizations like NASA or Raytheon or TRW.” Have you ever seen the Falcon and
the snowman? That’s a really interesting company. And that was a true story, by
the way. He made a lot of money for the shareholders, but it was only later in
life… I think he started his first business when he was in early 50s. And he
goes, “You got to figure out the money thing, because that’s way more
Dr. John Jaquish: And he goes, “The science things, you’re already annoyingly
analytical,” which is funny coming from him because so is he, but he’s like,
“Understanding how you’re going to monetize something, that’s everything.” In
fact, there are plenty of inferior inventions. Look at Betamax versus VHS.
Betamax was better, but we went with VHS because it was marketed better. How
many people had AOL? The worst internet service provider ever. And they were the
biggest. And it was because of marketing. Because of their business. Now
everything changes over time, so it’s just figure out how you’re going to
monetize what you’re doing. And that was a huge service to me. And then finally,
when I went to get my PhD, I got a full ride scholarship, so I didn’t have to
ask the old man for that.
Dr. John Jaquish: But he was like, “You did exactly what I wanted you to do. You
figured out how to make money.” It’s really a matter of… Just for the
entrepreneurial entrepreneurial minds that are listeners of your show, the model
is just creating value. I can create a $550 product that’s better than a $5,000
home gym, and you can put it in a backpack and walk away with it. You can use it
outside, you can take it to the beach. There’s more value, and then there’s a
better result. More value in the physical product, the experience, because it’s
just more usable. I keep one in the trunk of my car. I have a couple of my ads
where I just pull my Lamborghini to the side of the road and it’s some great
vista point and then do a workout right there. And I actually do that.
Dr. John Jaquish: But you know, sometimes I bring girlfriend with me, she takes
pictures. That lifestyle of nobody’s going to stop me from my workout, nobody’s
going to keep me from stimulating muscle growth, that was just the message. And
it really resonated with the busy professional. Which by the way, at first we
tried… We did some AB testing with bodybuilder type categories with our ads,
and they didn’t do well at all. Bodybuilding and weightlifting, they’re married,
and it’s really difficult to break that. But what I did find out… When working
with the busy professionals, I started getting incoming calls from NBA strength
coaches, from NFL players that are like, “Joint injuries are the thing I worry
about the most and this thing looks like it would be really easy on joints, and
I could actually get stronger.”
Dr. John Jaquish: Because every NFL player will agree… Well, I don’t know
about every, but almost every NFL player, everyone that I’ve talked to has
agreed the day they signed their contract with the NFL was the last day they got
stronger, because they’re told, if you hurt yourself while you’re exercising,
you’re out. That’s just something stupid you did. So they start training a lot
lighter, because it’s just like… Preserve right where you are and pray you
don’t get injured on the field. But
changes that. They can have
very little joint risk and they can get incredibly more powerful.
Nicholas: I’m the perfect customer for
X3 Bar resistance band training system
because I travel a lot. I’m
always on planes or in the car, moving around, doing crazy things. And I’ve also
been injured overloading joints in the gym a few times. I’ve herniated disks
back squatting for ego in college. I’ve done all that kind of stuff. So you’ve
definitely created a product that the fitness industry doesn’t like, because
you’re taking people out of the gym and putting them in the home. You’re getting
three times muscle growth in 10 minutes versus two hours at the gym. Yeah, it’s
very untraditional. So I love the business mind that sits behind it, as well as
the… It’s not arrogance. I know you said before I jumped on that sometimes
people say, “Hey, you’re arrogant.” It’s swagger.
Dr. John Jaquish: I just have haters and usually just boils down to they’re mad
they didn’t think about it, mad it’s not their product, mad it’s not their
business. Well, I also worked on this for a long time. I got a couple of
degrees. First four years I was working on the bone density product I made
nothing, and actually I lost money because I was funding the development of the
product. So everybody’s mad at the successful guy, but they’re not willing to
acknowledge the risk that was taken to do it, and the sacrifice that was taken
to make it all happen. I had to throw a lot of my own money at it. And then the
first invention and then
X3 Bar variable resistance training system
I was the only one who had used… Me, Dave Asprey, Tony Robbins… It was a
couple people had tested out and they all liked it, but I’m like, “Well, would
you want to market this and then license the technology from me?”
Dr. John Jaquish: And I went to a bunch of different fitness companies and
everybody said the same thing. Everyone’s like, “Oh, you don’t want to make a
scientific argument to a fitness audience. Those people are idiots. They can’t
understand science.” And they were right. The fitness market, what can I say? Or
maybe it’s just that most people who are spending time on social media who
happen to like that, just… I don’t know, they can’t break out of their own
paradigm or whatever. And Jordan Peterson, I know you’re a fan of Jordan
Peterson, he says that 12% of the human population is only professionally
qualified, from an intelligence standpoint, to push a mop. And I was like, “Wow,
that’s incredible.” The guy doesn’t get his stats wrong, so I didn’t question
Dr. John Jaquish: But I just thought like, “Wonder where are all these people
are?” And then I went to bodybuilding dot com and I found them. Just nonsensical
stuff. And no interest in a scientific understanding. A lot of times guys will
post a study and they’ll misread what it’s really about. They don’t understand
the words. One recently, I was talking about the metabolism of the human body,
and I forgot what the actual issue was, but it was sort of like… That’s not
how metabolic rates work. And somebody posts a study about atomic metabolism.
It’s actually an incorrect use of the word in a study. And I’m like, “You don’t
even know what this is about.” It was messenger RNA. And they use the word
metabolism. And I’m like, “Just because it says metabolism, it doesn’t mean it’s
talking about how many sandwiches you eat.” There’s a lot of things that have a
metabolic rate, but it just blew my mind. Wow, who ties your shoes for you?
Dr. John Jaquish: So ultimately… A lot of these people mean well, they just
don’t understand how to read science. Also academic research is written for
professors. It’s not run for the regular audience. but the fitness industry,
which, like I said, I don’t even really think that’s a thing. It’s more like a
sales entity of big box gym memberships for equipment that you don’t need. Or
you could say it’s… In fact, the CEO and founder of one of the world’s biggest
fitness chain says to me, “I sell memberships to a nightclub with treadmills.”
Nicholas: That’s a funny way to put it.
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s not about fitness. This is just where pretty people
decide to go, and they also… And we were in conversation about scientific
stuff and he goes, “You do realize nobody cares, right? They’re sold on cardio
and weights. Why try and reeducate them and sell them something they don’t think
they want?” And my business mind was like, “Right. You got to get to people that
really understand that they’re going through something to create a result. And
that something has got to be the most efficient process.” And that’s why as soon
as we started targeting busy professionals, we got inbound stuff from
professional athletes all over the world. You’ve probably heard of some of them.
Nicholas: You mentioned Dave Asprey before. I’m a fan of his work. I’ve read a
few of his books. He actually reached out recently to work with us to promote a
book that’s coming out in a couple months. So you said he was the first one to
try out the
? First person outside of the business?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah.
Nicholas: That’s cool.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. And he did great with it. In fact, he was my first
podcast. It’s kind of funny, it’s like more like the top podcast [crosstalk
Nicholas: It is, yeah. Bulletproof Radio or something like that.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, Bulletproof Radio. And it was great. Fortunately I
didn’t say anything that was inaccurate or something like that because obviously
I’ve learned a lot more since launching it. I didn’t even have the nutrition
side of it quite figured it out when we launched, because I really didn’t want
to say, “Eat me. Nothing else.” Like everything else just is poor quality food.
I thought that was a really controversial message, and the longer I’ve been
doing it, the more I realize it’s just nutrition.
Nicholas: Let’s dive into that for a minute. And by the way, Jordan Peterson,
who we’ve talked about a couple of times, his daughter, I think she hosts a
podcast that’s all about only eating red meat. I’ve eaten red meat my entire
life, and I know a lot of people say that it’s bad for you. I actually went to
Argentina once for five weeks, which is the beef capital of the world, and I ate
red meat every day for 35 days in a row, and I felt great. So it kind of goes
against what you hear in popular media nowadays. Let’s dive into that a little
bit. Why do you eat a ton of red meat every single day for your one meal?
Dr. John Jaquish: So I wanted to find something that had no conflicting research
around it as a basis for deciding what the best nutrition program would be.
Because you can read… There’s two sides. There’s veganism is wonderful and
you’re going to live a long time, sponsored by Kraft or Nabisco. Kraft and
Nabisco know that vegans don’t eat kale smoothies. They have cookies and
crackers and candy bars, and carbohydrates like wheat grain, it’s literally
cheaper than dirt. And they can put a couple hundred percent margin on a box of
cookies. So what they want to do is convince people that it’s healthy to eat all
this crap. They’ll even put like chocolate chip cookies with extra fiber and
people are like, “Ooh, it’s healthy.”
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, it’s not healthy. It’s complete garbage. And also you
need no fiber. The amount of fiber you need to live a very long time is zero.
Not that it’s bad for you, it’s kind of inert, it just goes through you. So it
just fills up your stomach, makes you bloated and nothing. So I wanted to find
something that said something that nobody could really argue with. So what I
looked for was what makes people live the longest? And the two things that stood
out crystal clear, high levels of strength and low levels of body fat are the
two things that are seen in the physiology of those who live the longest. And
they had that most of their life. So it’s like, “Okay, if I want a more concise
or backed up point to make about nutrition, let’s start there. Living the
Dr. John Jaquish: Obviously if you live the longest with a certain nutrition
program, well then it certainly doesn’t cause cancer, because that makes you
live shorter, not longer. And the same goes for every chronic disease. So it was
very obvious. How do you get stronger? Well there’s really only one thing, it’s
animal protein. And plant protein’s usually 9% usable by the body because it’s
all the wrong amino acid ratios for humans. It’s great if you’re a gorilla or a
goat, but we’re not. We’re people. We’re different. So [crosstalk 00:29:47]
really small intestines for everybody.
Nicholas: For everybody that’s listening, what do you mean by usability of
protein, because your book is the first time I had ever realized that there was
a usability rate like absorption percentage for a protein.
Dr. John Jaquish: So different foods have… Different protein foods… You can
even put peas and broccoli in that category. They’re at the bottom of the list,
obviously. There’s protein in them, and there might even be higher levels of
protein, but how usable is that protein? So we need certain ratios of essential
amino acids. There’s a reason we call them essential, because we need them. And
the rest of the amino acids, there’s about 21 amino acids that the body needs to
make a protein. Eight of them are not made by the body. You need to consume
them. The rest of them are made by the body. So you don’t need to worry about
them at all. So you want to eat things that are higher in those correct ratios,
and that just so happens to be meat and eggs. Eggs is the highest thing. I think
it’s 48%. I mean, human breast milk is, I think, 52%, because a lot of that’s
carbohydrate. Because to make a child grow… The biochemistry of an infant is
kind of irrelevant in the scope of things. I just don’t want any confusion on
Dr. John Jaquish: So when you look at that usability, you can measure it by
nitrogen secretion. So if you don’t use the protein you have, when you urinate,
you can see there’s a lot of foam in it. Really high levels of nitrogen, that
means you’re wasting your protein, or you ate something that had a lot of
unusable proteins. So that’s kind of how that works. And there’s a lot of
research that backs that up. So it was like, “Okay, meat, eggs.” Now eggs have a
lot of fat in them, so you can store fat as fat. You definitely store… All you
do with carbohydrates, unless they’re very low level, is store them as fat. You
can’t store protein as fat. You go into thermogenesis if you have too much
proteins, so your body temperature goes up.
Dr. John Jaquish: So for example, I keep my place, my house at 63 degrees.
That’s cold for most people, not for me though, because I always go a little bit
over one gram per pound of body weight of quality protein, so that I’m always…
When I’m eating, because I don’t… Some days I fast, so then I ignore that. And
I get cold on those days. But when I’m not fasting, it’s high quality protein
over what I need, because I’d rather go into thermogenesis and miss out on
potential muscle growth.
Nicholas: It all makes total sense to me. The last thing, because I know that
we’re going to have to wrap up in a couple of minutes. Last thing I wanted to
ask you about, and you just mentioned it, is fasting. I think a lot of people in
the audience, they’re interested in fasting. I know that I am, and I’ve done
intermittent fasting for a while. I’ve done 24 hour water fast a few times. But
something that I thought was super fascinating in the book is that new science
is stating that at 72 hours, you can actually re-up your immune system, white
blood cells die. Can you talk about that a little bit, because I thought that
Dr. John Jaquish: Total renewal immune cells in 72 hour fast. Coincidentally,
that is how long I am fasting. 72 hours. So really Sunday night, one meal of the
day dinner, all the way to Wednesday night. That’s what I do every week.
Nicholas: And you still work out while you’re fasting?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. I feel fantastic.
Nicholas: That’s great.
Dr. John Jaquish: The people that feel like they don’t have energy, they’re not
in ketosis, which means they’re dependent on glucose. So they have to constantly
eat glucose based stuff. So you’ll never get there by doing that, which is why I
tell people not to. Probably one of the things I’m most hated for other than
just being successful… Actually, that’s the thing I’m most hated, is jealous
losers kicking and screaming. But it’s that I tell people like you can’t eat
carbohydrates and expect anything other than… There is one good way to use
carbohydrates, it has to do with cellular hydration right after a workout, but
really they add no value.
Dr. John Jaquish: The amount of carbohydrates you need to live a perfectly
healthy life is zero. So they’re not even a macronutrient. They’re
misclassified. There’s only two macronutrients. There’s fat and protein, that’s
it. Carbohydrates are a nice thing to have, which coincidentally show up
typically the end of the warm season before the winter. So there’s an advantage
for animals to consume carbohydrates and get as fat as possible. So bears, for
example, will give themselves type two diabetes at the end of the summer so they
get as fast as possible. Why would the body have a gear it shifts in to amplify
fat storage? Well because carbohydrates are available and they’re highly
addictive, which gets animals to eat them. But then, because of seasonality,
they disappear and you have excess body fat. As everybody knows, you get a lot
of carbohydrates, you get fat.
Dr. John Jaquish: And then you have that adipose tissue to live off of. You can
fast the whole winter and just live off of that. It also keeps you warmer. Obese
people have a better survival rate in extreme cold. That’s a fact. So
carbohydrates exist to get you as fat as possible as quickly as possible. That’s
really what they’re there for. Other than, and I told you, endurance athletes
can use carbohydrates, and then there’s a way to hydrate cells and cause
hyperplasia, which is splitting in the muscle cells, but this is a very specific
protocol. I think there’s 30 pages of the book that are about hyperplasia. So
other than those two things, just no value.
Nicholas: Well, I love the point about the bear. I’ve told a couple of people
about that. I’m like, “That’s why there is a scientific reason to get fat and
why diabetes is triggered through eating a lot of carbs like that.” But then
I’ve also used a marathon runner or somebody who’s running after they work out,
it pumps up the cortisol, it’s because of the fight or flight, your body thinks
that you’re running from something and…
Dr. John Jaquish: Forget about muscle growth, we’ve got to go.
Nicholas: Yeah, exactly. It’s very interesting. Well, thank you for coming on
the show today. I’m excited to come visit you and ride around in the Lamborghini
and we can do workout videos. So I’ll have to let you know if I’m ever out
there. But you live a cool lifestyle, man, and I love how you target this
fitness industry, this group of salespeople, and you call them out, so I really
appreciate your time today.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. Thanks, Nicholas. It’s great.