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Gianna: Hey, everybody. It’s Gianna here and I am on with the most amazing… I
don’t really have men on, because I don’t think men have a lot to offer the
menopause world, but this is one gentleman who does. This is Dr. Dr. John
Jaquish, and he is a biomedical engineer. Let me put his credentials up here
where you can find him. So, Dr. Dr. John Jaquish, I love your name, it’s so
Dr. John Jaquish: I’ve never heard that it’s fancy.
Gianna: It’s fancy, yeah, very French. There are many reasons I wanted to get
you on the show, I saw you on some other podcasts and I like ooh, this guy is so
interesting. When your mother went into menopause… I’m going to read a whole
bunch first. When your mother went into menopause, you used your biomedical
engineer expertise to help solve a huge problem that women in menopause have.
And you make a very powerful statement that is thought provoking. You say,
lifting weights is possibly the worst way to trigger muscle growth, which goes
against the grain of everything. And you invented OsteoStrong, which is a set of
machines that changes the human body in the shortest amount of time using bone
loading, which we’ll ask you about.
And Tony Robbins is your partner and you have locations all over the world, how
exciting is that? And then you created the
, which is a home
gym device that gives you maximum workout in the shortest amount of time, which
everybody in the world wants that. And it has over 1,600 five star reviews. And
then lastly, I’m not a big fan of protein powders after I took them for many
years, but you have one that is the most bio-available, I can’t talk today,
bio-available anabolic protein powder that allows for the most protein synthesis
for maximum muscle growth. And I want that, I want the menopause ladies to have
that because being strong old women is what we need to be. So we’ll go back to
the beginning, how did you come to help your mother with the menopause?
Dr. John Jaquish: She was frustrated, and you don’t like to see your parents
hurting. She felt like she was too young because she liked hiking, she liked
gardening, she played tennis, and she was in her early seventies, very active,
strong, and she said, ‘How do I have osteoporosis? I’m very active. And they say
you got to be active.’ It’s like one of the worst recommendations in medicine,
because it doesn’t tell you what active means, right? Like if you want to be
funny, we can say holding a glass of wine is activity, so why don’t we just do
that? But what level of activity?
And so I told my mother I got an idea, ‘I’m going to look into this and find out
if there is a group of people in the world that has super human bone density.
And if I can identify that population, I’m going to figure out how they did it
and maybe that’ll help you.’ And she was like, ‘Yeah, it sounds great.’ She
didn’t have to do anything. So, I identified the population almost immediately
when I started doing literature review, gymnasts, because of the rate at which
they hit the ground, they get incredible forces through the body. And when they
get these incredible forces, bone growth is triggered because the inner matrix
of the bone, that little honeycomb kind of structure inside the bone, we’ve all
seen it, those little walls bend and that’s an irritant, so minerals get pulled
into the bone and more of the bone matrix has made, more of those little walls
are made. So, therefore they can grow bone density.
Now, they also retire at an average age of 19, because they get so injured. So
what is best for bone is also the most dangerous for bone. So I decided to
create a series of medical devices that give the benefit of the high impact
without the risks of the high impact. And that’s what OsteoStrong is.
Gianna: It’s just amazing. [crosstalk 00:04:20]. We have spoken before
Dr. John Jaquish: Almost everybody that walks in there, if you can move on your
own, if you’re mobile, like obviously [inaudible] paralysis, you cannot
self-load a bone, but other than that, and a couple other contraindications,
which are pretty minor and rare, just about anybody can take advantage of it.
Gianna: So I believe when we spoke before you said it stimulates the bone and
then makes it stronger, what’s going on [inaudible 00:04:47]?
Dr. John Jaquish: This is the axis of a bone, and so the compression is from
end-to-end. So think like a straw, you can bend the straw really easily, but if
you put force end-to-end on a straw because it had the walls act as shearing
walls. So it actually has a lot more structural integrity than if you try and
So the bone is almost exactly the same because the inside of the bone is very
soft. It’s where the new cells are created. And some of the larger bones is
where blood is created. So lots going on in the inside if It’s not very hard
structure. But the outer cortex of the bone, that’s the hard part, which is more
structurally like a straw. So that is where we can absorb the most force, and
from a muscular standpoint, create the most force, which is what brought me to
my next innovation, which was not necessarily post-menopausal, but could be if
somebody really wants to reshape their body and lose a bunch of body fat. And
because I realized, when looking at bone, the way
humans exercise is really not intelligent.
Gianna: That’s my next question, when you say lifting weights is possibly the
worst way to trigger muscle growth, let’s just talk about that because-
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, worst way, I don’t know, like being an alcoholic has
probably the worked, you know what I mean? There’s a lot of dumb things people
do that are not conducive to healthy living or building muscle or losing body
Gianna: But we don’t want to go in the gym, we’re like, with all these weights
and reps, do we do light, do we do heavy? It’s very confusing. Very few people
have actually anything happen.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. I refer to it like standard fitness, and it’s funny
because I have a ridiculous amount of haters in standard fitness. But I look at
their industry and I say like, what’s the success rate of your industry? How
many people go to a gym and completely transform? And I’m not talking weight
loss, I’m talking, they look like professional athletes. Is it 1%, is it maybe
Gianna: I think it’s [crosstalk 00:07:02], do you know.
Dr. John Jaquish: [inaudible] 100th of 1%. It’s probably like 200 people in the
world that are like photograph worthy that you would see in an ad because,
they’re in good shape.
Gianna: Then generally, we tend to think they’re using something, they’re using
steroids, they’re using something to get that low body fat. So I did purchase
. I’m very excited. It hasn’t arrived yet, but I cannot
wait to start.
Dr. John Jaquish: [inaudible] out yesterday because [inaudible] this up a little
Gianna: Yup, I’m really excited to just get started. And I was looking at, you
have on your website, which is on the screen here, the workouts. It’s very easy.
And how many minutes a day is it going to take?
Dr. John Jaquish: It takes normal people 10 minutes. Once you get very muscular.
And this is actually part of the myth that strength athletes have poor cardio,
the larger a muscle, the more blood it needs. So you get really devastated from
a cardiovascular standpoint when you do like squats with
because it’s a much more intense stimulus, because it fatigues in accordance
with biomechanical output, just millimeter by millimeter. So the weight’s always
changing as you’re moving in accordance with what your capacity is. And
nothing’s ever really done that before. Yeah, we’ve had like band training, but
bands training is so light that it’s not relevant for strength [inaudible] do
It’s great for rehab. You go to physical therapy, they’ll put you on some bands
and if you’re doing an outward rotation kind of thing, that’s great, but that’s
not a strength movement, that’s a rehab movement. And then, so you get the bands
heavy enough and you don’t have the Olympic bar that the
is on or the ground plate that you need to attach so the bands can move freely
under your feet, you’re going to twist your joints and cause an injury.
Gianna: I’m really, really excited to start with this. And then there’s a
Facebook group and a lot of people put their results up in there. So it’s not
just you talking about it. There are 1,600 positive reviews. There’s also an
for women, if you want to see what pertains to women. So I’m
really excited to get started with that. How did you get Tony Robbins involved?
Dr. John Jaquish: It was really funny. He called me and I didn’t believe it was
Gianna: I live like 10 miles from him.
Dr. John Jaquish: In Florida?
Gianna: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. I’m in [inaudible 00:09:40].
Dr. John Jaquish: Oh, wow. Okay, yeah. That’s where he is. [inaudible] see him
walk, he’s pretty easy to spot.
Gianna: No, I saw him in the movies theater in New York once, so it was very
crowded on a Saturday and you couldn’t get a seat and there was a really, really
tall guy and nobody would move over for him. And I’m like, that’s Tony Robbins.
Someone should move over for him. And finally he found a seat and then as we
left, I ended up being right behind him so I could see how extraordinarily tall
he was. So he phoned you up. Did you literally just answer your cell phone and
Tony Robbins is on the phone?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, but he didn’t say, he said, ‘Hi, my name’s Tony. I want
to buy one of your prototypes.’ And this was the bone density medical device,
which became OsteoStrong. And I said, ‘Well, they’re very expensive and they are
a prototype.’ But I knew he knew something about my business because how would
he know I was still in prototype?
Gianna: Did you know it was Tony Robbins?
Dr. John Jaquish: No, I had no idea. [inaudible] distinct voice. It sounded
familiar, and I’m like, who’s his? And so I said, ‘These devices are 300,000
apiece. If I wanted to make you one, I’m assuming you’re not interested?’ He
said, ‘Oh, I’ll buy one.’ And I said, what’s your name again? And he laughed,
and he says, ‘This is Tony Robbins.’ And I said, ‘I recognized the voice, okay.’
Gianna: How long ago was that?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, since then he’s a great friend. He offers a lot of
advice. Now, here’s the best part about Tony Robbins, he’s exactly the same
person in person that he is on stage. So there’s no indoor voice. Basically he’s
yelling or he’s asleep and I’m not even sure when he sleeps.
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s totally genuine. That’s exactly how he is.
Gianna: Good. Now my menopause ladies, I tell them to get rid of the paradigm of
all the weight loss things that you think you know, that obviously have not
worked and that’s how they ended up working with me. And one of the things is
they’re generally starving, they’re getting enough protein, they’re not getting
enough amino acids. And I don’t generally like the weight protein, I like to eat
real food. But I do want to try this protein because once I read about it, I’m
like, this looks really cool. And you said it allows for the most protein
synthesis for maximum muscle growth. Now that does not mean I want to be huge,
but I want to be very fit and I’m pretty lean, but I want to be even leaner. So
I’m really excited to try this.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. The easy way to lower your body fat is to gain muscle.
And we don’t realize that. It’s so easy to be lean and fit looking and very
feminine. I know I’m not feminine, but [crosstalk 00:12:34]. When they begin to
just put on a little bit of muscle and women don’t have the biochemistry to put
on the muscle mass that the guys do. Anyways, it’s kind of a silly conversation.
I hear it all the time and every once in a while somebody will say, oh, I tried
, but I got too big. And I said, ‘Are you sure you
didn’t just use it as an excuse to eat more cupcakes, and instead of putting on
muscle, I was just body fat.’ And they’re like, ‘Yeah, I might’ve done that.’
Okay, we’ll go back to X3 Bar
and then eat proper nutrition. Because
if you’re lean, that won’t happen.
Gianna: Let’s talk about the nutrition. So what is this protein powder doing
that say Beachbody protein doesn’t do?
Dr. John Jaquish: The Beachbody is whey-based, and this is another thing I’m
just hated for. Because the body building community whey protein is like the
body of Christ. They like, how could you say something negative about why? And
I’m like, ‘Well, only 18% of it is essential amino acids and the rest, because
it doesn’t match up with any of the other proteins in the body, you don’t use it
as a full protein. It passes through you in waste.’ And they just don’t like
hearing that. But we live in an age where people want the news that makes them
feel good, not the truth. Because they’ve been sucking up whey for years, and I
tell them it’s a waste, they can look in the mirror and know it’s a waste, but
they clearly don’t want to admit to it, because they never change.
Gianna: What’s disturbing is that you’ll see these magazines and they have all
the ads, and before you really know what’s going on, you’re buying this whey
protein and you’re taking two or three shakes a day and then the body changes
are not happening because they make you think that’s all you need to do, and
then you think that something’s wrong with you. And this is a battle of a
paradigm I have with the menopause ladies a lot. They feel medically defective.
And then when that goes into their brain, they think, I need to go to the doctor
and get some medication. And so, that’s one of the things if I have to say, I’m
hated. And it’s a careful thing you have to say, you probably really don’t need
to see the doctor. You really need to-
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, you don’t want to give out medical advice. I don’t want
medical advice either, but it’s like, what do you think you’re deficient in? And
by the way, there is no medical doctor that is really going to look at your
conditioning, meaning your body fat and your percentage body fat. There is no
doctor for that. There’s bariatric surgeons that’ll put a constrictive belt
around your stomach surgically. But that’s for people who are morbidly obese.
Gianna: When I was fat and when to those medical weight loss centers, which are
just beyond humiliating because I was only 40 pounds overweight, I wasn’t obese,
but I thought I was headed that way because I couldn’t get control over this
way. And then they put you on that horrible scale that you want to kill
yourself. I swear to God you feel like such a failure. And that is something I
really try to get the ladies to understand that is not proper. And then they
starve you. They say, let’s tell you how fat you are and you can only eat 800
calories a day of salad and some boxed meta fast food.
And I hate those places. So I really like that we’re having such a positive
discussion over. I wanted to ask you what ladies should eat too, but let’s talk
about the nutrition. If you have no building blocks for your body processes to
work, then of course you’re going to be run down, you’re going to be tired. And
then a lot of times they write me, ‘I need to change this, but I’m too tired.’
Well, you have to make the changes to get the energy you’re starving. Why do
people over 50 have a 50% chance of dying from hip fractures and other muscle
mass related diseases?
Dr. John Jaquish: Because they have fragile bone, and they don’t have the muscle
mass to discharge abrupt movements. So think of muscles as springs or shock
absorbers in your car. Everybody knows there’s springs underneath your car to
keep it a bump in the road from breaking something in your car or rattling your
teeth out of your head. So that’s there for a reason, stronger muscle discharges
the abrupt jar… Like if you don’t see that there’s a curb in front of you and
you take a hard step off a curb, maybe you hyper-extend your knee, you still
have some musculature in your calves to… Your knees lock, not your quads, but
in your calves to slow that down, so that it doesn’t manifest as a fracture. So
the two go hand in hand. Fracture avoidance, they call it a musculoskeletal
issue. Not just skeletal issue.
Gianna: It’s for the older women, and I don’t know at what age I’m ever going to
consider myself to be an older woman, because I feel like a 25 year old. So in
essence, what we’re talking about-
Dr. John Jaquish: [crosstalk] good care of yourself. My mother, she constantly
talks about how old she is, but she’s in the garden, she’s hiking, she’s doing
everything she wants to do. She doesn’t have a lifestyle change.
Gianna: That’s awesome.
Dr. John Jaquish: Because as soon as I fixed her osteopetrosis, I fixed it by
the way in 18 months with my first-
Gianna: That was going to be my next question, how long [crosstalk 00:18:22].
Dr. John Jaquish: My first bone density prototype. The prototype that is now
OsteoStrong. She has the bones of a 30 year old now and she’s in her eighties.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. She can do anything.
Gianna: Why would someone decide to go to an OsteoStrong location, which are all
over the world? That’s like a center you go to and apparently, it seems for 10
minutes, 10 to 15 minutes, you go through these machines that do the bone
loading as you said. What would be someone’s decision to go to a location versus
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, they do different things. OsteoStrong is very focused on
bone and bone density. And it’s well, very similar logic, the application is
very different with
. So X3 Bar
is really about
muscle and body fat. The increase in muscle from the body fat. Both are
important. The two greatest indicators of long life. And this is probably the
only nutritional research that doesn’t have conflicting research against it, is
the two greatest drivers of long life are being lean, and being strong. And so
the X3 Bar
really addresses that, but also fragility fractures play
into that. And when somebody is avoiding a fragility fracture by increasing the
bone density by going to OsteoStrong, I think they’re going to be better off
Gianna: Right. I am so excited to get started with it. And I have one more
question. What do menopause women need to be doing in your opinion? What are
they doing wrong?
Dr. John Jaquish: Oh, they need to follow your program because they don’t-
Gianna: That was [inaudible] question. [crosstalk] and you also, I started
following you and then you wrote something really nice on my Instagram that made
me very happy that you liked what I was doing. Thank you for that.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, I read everything that you were talking about and I
thought, well, I need to talk to Gianna because she’s one of the only people
that is not saying an apple and a salad is [crosstalk 00:20:46]. It’s like
that’s malnutrition. You’ll die [inaudible 00:00:20:48].
Gianna: There’s some that intermittent fasting is going around and with
everything goes around Facebook [inaudible] and there’s women breaking their
fast with literally an Apple and a salad, why can’t I lose weight? I’m like,
well, you’re not eating anything. I don’t know how they’re doing it, but it goes
very deeply into the cortisol and your body processes not working.
Dr. John Jaquish: When you limit the fuel going into your body, the reason
cortisol goes up when you have a very calorie restricted meal, is it thinks that
you’re for long-term not going to be able to get the proper nutrients. So what
cortisol does two things, it gets rid of muscle. So metabolizes muscle. And it
makes sure you don’t metabolize body fat. So it keeps your body fat for a
longer. The last I checked, there’s nobody in the world that wants that.
Gianna: And unfortunately, people, they get started with the intermittent
fasting, which I’m a fan of, but you have to do it, not that it’s complicated,
but you have to do it right. And the whole point of it is you’re keeping your
insulin low for a longer period of time, but you’re still getting your calories
in. And honestly, it’s super fun. It’s not hard. [crosstalk 00:22:06].
Dr. John Jaquish: In the fasted days, you feel great. You have tons of energy.
Gianna: And you get to really enjoy. Most women are probably eating a two,
three, 400 calorie meal on their diet all day. You can sit down and have a 800,
1000 calorie meal, which makes you just feel good. And you know, it’s good for
dinner time and makes you go to sleep. And it feels fantastic. I try to get them
to see what we talked about, the most important thing for me when I began this
is, I cannot be an old decrepit woman. I don’t want to be in a nursing home. I’m
an unmarried person, there’s no one to take care of me. I have to be strong. And
so being strong is number one. Being lean, I like being lean. I like being sexy.
I attract ladies that want to be sexy. So I can’t wait to get started with your
So I have your website on the screen the whole time at jaquishBioMedical.com.
You can get the
, you can look at the Fortagen
I believe the proteins called. [inaudible] get some of that. And the workouts
are there. All the information is there. It’s a 10 minute a day workout. And
it’s only five days a week, which was very cool, I looked at that last night. It
looks amazing, so I can’t wait to get started and I will be documenting my
journey as soon as it arrives. My broken wrist seems to be
doing pretty good, so I hope I can maneuver the bar. Your information is just
amazing. I was very, very excited when I heard who’s this guy who helped
menopause because you don’t really find those kinds of things.
Dr. John Jaquish: I do get invited to a lot of places where I walk in and I
realize, this might be 700 people in the building, and I’m the only male. It
makes me freeze a little bit, like am I even allowed to be here? Did they know
that I’m a guy?
Gianna: We let a couple of you guys in.
Dr. John Jaquish: Sure. It’s always easiest to study something that’s close to
you, right? How many oncologists study cancer because they lost a loved one to
cancer. A lot of them. Statistically, a lot. So for me it was just, osteoporosis
was the only thing that was limiting my mother. And to me, my mother was
invincible. [inaudible] Like, what do you mean you have a problem? You don’t
have problems. And so it was close to me. So it’s we all have that similar
motivation and I wanted to see my mom do everything she liked to do with no
limitations. And now, I got what I wanted. She still gives me a lot of
unsolicited advice [inaudible 00:24:54].
Gianna: Well, we’re going to keep an eye and you’re speaking all over the world
all the time. So this is a very exciting transition into just new information. I
try to lead people away from the medical community, away from the meds. Let’s
look at health via nutrition and getting our bodies working optimally, getting
our processes working optimally, those are my catchphrases. You’re going to hear
me saying that a lot. So thank you so much for coming.
Dr. John Jaquish: Thanks, Gianna.