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Gianna: Hey, everybody. It’s Gianna here and I am on with the most amazing… I don’t really have men on, because I don’t think men have a lot to offer the menopause world, but this is one gentleman who does. This is Dr. Dr. John Jaquish, and he is a biomedical engineer. Let me put his credentials up here where you can find him. So, Dr. Dr. John Jaquish, I love your name, it’s so fancy.

Dr. John Jaquish: I’ve never heard that it’s fancy.

Gianna: It’s fancy, yeah, very French. There are many reasons I wanted to get you on the show, I saw you on some other podcasts and I like ooh, this guy is so interesting. When your mother went into menopause… I’m going to read a whole bunch first. When your mother went into menopause, you used your biomedical engineer expertise to help solve a huge problem that women in menopause have. And you make a very powerful statement that is thought provoking. You say, lifting weights is possibly the worst way to trigger muscle growth, which goes against the grain of everything. And you invented OsteoStrong, which is a set of machines that changes the human body in the shortest amount of time using bone loading, which we’ll ask you about.

And Tony Robbins is your partner and you have locations all over the world, how exciting is that? And then you created the X3 Bar Elite, which is a home gym device that gives you maximum workout in the shortest amount of time, which everybody in the world wants that. And it has over 1,600 five star reviews. And then lastly, I’m not a big fan of protein powders after I took them for many years, but you have one that is the most bio-available, I can’t talk today, bio-available anabolic protein powder that allows for the most protein synthesis for maximum muscle growth. And I want that, I want the menopause ladies to have that because being strong old women is what we need to be. So we’ll go back to the beginning, how did you come to help your mother with the menopause?

Dr. John Jaquish: She was frustrated, and you don’t like to see your parents hurting. She felt like she was too young because she liked hiking, she liked gardening, she played tennis, and she was in her early seventies, very active, strong, and she said, ‘How do I have osteoporosis? I’m very active. And they say you got to be active.’ It’s like one of the worst recommendations in medicine, because it doesn’t tell you what active means, right? Like if you want to be funny, we can say holding a glass of wine is activity, so why don’t we just do that? But what level of activity?

And so I told my mother I got an idea, ‘I’m going to look into this and find out if there is a group of people in the world that has super human bone density. And if I can identify that population, I’m going to figure out how they did it and maybe that’ll help you.’ And she was like, ‘Yeah, it sounds great.’ She didn’t have to do anything. So, I identified the population almost immediately when I started doing literature review, gymnasts, because of the rate at which they hit the ground, they get incredible forces through the body. And when they get these incredible forces, bone growth is triggered because the inner matrix of the bone, that little honeycomb kind of structure inside the bone, we’ve all seen it, those little walls bend and that’s an irritant, so minerals get pulled into the bone and more of the bone matrix has made, more of those little walls are made. So, therefore they can grow bone density.

Now, they also retire at an average age of 19, because they get so injured. So what is best for bone is also the most dangerous for bone. So I decided to create a series of medical devices that give the benefit of the high impact without the risks of the high impact. And that’s what OsteoStrong is.

Gianna: It’s just amazing. [crosstalk 00:04:20]. We have spoken before [crosstalk 00:04:24]-

Dr. John Jaquish: Almost everybody that walks in there, if you can move on your own, if you’re mobile, like obviously [inaudible] paralysis, you cannot self-load a bone, but other than that, and a couple other contraindications, which are pretty minor and rare, just about anybody can take advantage of it.

Gianna: So I believe when we spoke before you said it stimulates the bone and then makes it stronger, what’s going on [inaudible 00:04:47]?

Dr. John Jaquish: This is the axis of a bone, and so the compression is from end-to-end. So think like a straw, you can bend the straw really easily, but if you put force end-to-end on a straw because it had the walls act as shearing walls. So it actually has a lot more structural integrity than if you try and bend it.

So the bone is almost exactly the same because the inside of the bone is very soft. It’s where the new cells are created. And some of the larger bones is where blood is created. So lots going on in the inside if It’s not very hard structure. But the outer cortex of the bone, that’s the hard part, which is more structurally like a straw. So that is where we can absorb the most force, and from a muscular standpoint, create the most force, which is what brought me to my next innovation, which was not necessarily post-menopausal, but could be if somebody really wants to reshape their body and lose a bunch of body fat. And that was X3 because I realized, when looking at bone, the way humans exercise is really not intelligent.

Gianna: That’s my next question, when you say lifting weights is possibly the worst way to trigger muscle growth, let’s just talk about that because-

Dr. John Jaquish: Well, worst way, I don’t know, like being an alcoholic has probably the worked, you know what I mean? There’s a lot of dumb things people do that are not conducive to healthy living or building muscle or losing body fat, but-

Gianna: But we don’t want to go in the gym, we’re like, with all these weights and reps, do we do light, do we do heavy? It’s very confusing. Very few people have actually anything happen.

Dr. John Jaquish: Right. I refer to it like standard fitness, and it’s funny because I have a ridiculous amount of haters in standard fitness. But I look at their industry and I say like, what’s the success rate of your industry? How many people go to a gym and completely transform? And I’m not talking weight loss, I’m talking, they look like professional athletes. Is it 1%, is it maybe more?

Gianna: I think it’s [crosstalk 00:07:02], do you know.

Dr. John Jaquish: [inaudible] 100th of 1%. It’s probably like 200 people in the world that are like photograph worthy that you would see in an ad because, they’re in good shape.

Gianna: Then generally, we tend to think they’re using something, they’re using steroids, they’re using something to get that low body fat. So I did purchase the X3 Bar. I’m very excited. It hasn’t arrived yet, but I cannot wait to start.

Dr. John Jaquish: [inaudible] out yesterday because [inaudible] this up a little bit.

Gianna: Yup, I’m really excited to just get started. And I was looking at, you have on your website, which is on the screen here, the workouts. It’s very easy. And how many minutes a day is it going to take?

Dr. John Jaquish: It takes normal people 10 minutes. Once you get very muscular. And this is actually part of the myth that strength athletes have poor cardio, the larger a muscle, the more blood it needs. So you get really devastated from a cardiovascular standpoint when you do like squats with X3, because it’s a much more intense stimulus, because it fatigues in accordance with biomechanical output, just millimeter by millimeter. So the weight’s always changing as you’re moving in accordance with what your capacity is. And nothing’s ever really done that before. Yeah, we’ve had like band training, but bands training is so light that it’s not relevant for strength [inaudible] do anything.

It’s great for rehab. You go to physical therapy, they’ll put you on some bands and if you’re doing an outward rotation kind of thing, that’s great, but that’s not a strength movement, that’s a rehab movement. And then, so you get the bands heavy enough and you don’t have the Olympic bar that the X3 part is on or the ground plate that you need to attach so the bands can move freely under your feet, you’re going to twist your joints and cause an injury.

Gianna: I’m really, really excited to start with this. And then there’s a Facebook group and a lot of people put their results up in there. So it’s not just you talking about it. There are 1,600 positive reviews. There’s also an X3 Bar for women, if you want to see what pertains to women. So I’m really excited to get started with that. How did you get Tony Robbins involved?

Dr. John Jaquish: It was really funny. He called me and I didn’t believe it was him.

Gianna: I live like 10 miles from him.

Dr. John Jaquish: In Florida?

Gianna: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. I’m in [inaudible 00:09:40].

Dr. John Jaquish: Oh, wow. Okay, yeah. That’s where he is. [inaudible] see him walk, he’s pretty easy to spot.

Gianna: No, I saw him in the movies theater in New York once, so it was very crowded on a Saturday and you couldn’t get a seat and there was a really, really tall guy and nobody would move over for him. And I’m like, that’s Tony Robbins. Someone should move over for him. And finally he found a seat and then as we left, I ended up being right behind him so I could see how extraordinarily tall he was. So he phoned you up. Did you literally just answer your cell phone and Tony Robbins is on the phone?

Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, but he didn’t say, he said, ‘Hi, my name’s Tony. I want to buy one of your prototypes.’ And this was the bone density medical device, which became OsteoStrong. And I said, ‘Well, they’re very expensive and they are a prototype.’ But I knew he knew something about my business because how would he know I was still in prototype?

Gianna: Did you know it was Tony Robbins?

Dr. John Jaquish: No, I had no idea. [inaudible] distinct voice. It sounded familiar, and I’m like, who’s his? And so I said, ‘These devices are 300,000 apiece. If I wanted to make you one, I’m assuming you’re not interested?’ He said, ‘Oh, I’ll buy one.’ And I said, what’s your name again? And he laughed, and he says, ‘This is Tony Robbins.’ And I said, ‘I recognized the voice, okay.’

Gianna: How long ago was that?

Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, since then he’s a great friend. He offers a lot of advice. Now, here’s the best part about Tony Robbins, he’s exactly the same person in person that he is on stage. So there’s no indoor voice. Basically he’s yelling or he’s asleep and I’m not even sure when he sleeps.

Gianna: Right?

Dr. John Jaquish: It’s totally genuine. That’s exactly how he is.

Gianna: Good. Now my menopause ladies, I tell them to get rid of the paradigm of all the weight loss things that you think you know, that obviously have not worked and that’s how they ended up working with me. And one of the things is they’re generally starving, they’re getting enough protein, they’re not getting enough amino acids. And I don’t generally like the weight protein, I like to eat real food. But I do want to try this protein because once I read about it, I’m like, this looks really cool. And you said it allows for the most protein synthesis for maximum muscle growth. Now that does not mean I want to be huge, but I want to be very fit and I’m pretty lean, but I want to be even leaner. So I’m really excited to try this.

Dr. John Jaquish: Right. The easy way to lower your body fat is to gain muscle. And we don’t realize that. It’s so easy to be lean and fit looking and very feminine. I know I’m not feminine, but [crosstalk 00:12:34]. When they begin to just put on a little bit of muscle and women don’t have the biochemistry to put on the muscle mass that the guys do. Anyways, it’s kind of a silly conversation. I hear it all the time and every once in a while somebody will say, oh, I tried using X3, but I got too big. And I said, ‘Are you sure you didn’t just use it as an excuse to eat more cupcakes, and instead of putting on muscle, I was just body fat.’ And they’re like, ‘Yeah, I might’ve done that.’ Okay, we’ll go back to X3 and then eat proper nutrition. Because if you’re lean, that won’t happen.

Gianna: Let’s talk about the nutrition. So what is this protein powder doing that say Beachbody protein doesn’t do?

Dr. John Jaquish: The Beachbody is whey-based, and this is another thing I’m just hated for. Because the body building community whey protein is like the body of Christ. They like, how could you say something negative about why? And I’m like, ‘Well, only 18% of it is essential amino acids and the rest, because it doesn’t match up with any of the other proteins in the body, you don’t use it as a full protein. It passes through you in waste.’ And they just don’t like hearing that. But we live in an age where people want the news that makes them feel good, not the truth. Because they’ve been sucking up whey for years, and I tell them it’s a waste, they can look in the mirror and know it’s a waste, but they clearly don’t want to admit to it, because they never change.

Gianna: What’s disturbing is that you’ll see these magazines and they have all the ads, and before you really know what’s going on, you’re buying this whey protein and you’re taking two or three shakes a day and then the body changes are not happening because they make you think that’s all you need to do, and then you think that something’s wrong with you. And this is a battle of a paradigm I have with the menopause ladies a lot. They feel medically defective. And then when that goes into their brain, they think, I need to go to the doctor and get some medication. And so, that’s one of the things if I have to say, I’m hated. And it’s a careful thing you have to say, you probably really don’t need to see the doctor. You really need to-

Dr. John Jaquish: Well, you don’t want to give out medical advice. I don’t want medical advice either, but it’s like, what do you think you’re deficient in? And by the way, there is no medical doctor that is really going to look at your conditioning, meaning your body fat and your percentage body fat. There is no doctor for that. There’s bariatric surgeons that’ll put a constrictive belt around your stomach surgically. But that’s for people who are morbidly obese.

Gianna: When I was fat and when to those medical weight loss centers, which are just beyond humiliating because I was only 40 pounds overweight, I wasn’t obese, but I thought I was headed that way because I couldn’t get control over this way. And then they put you on that horrible scale that you want to kill yourself. I swear to God you feel like such a failure. And that is something I really try to get the ladies to understand that is not proper. And then they starve you. They say, let’s tell you how fat you are and you can only eat 800 calories a day of salad and some boxed meta fast food.

And I hate those places. So I really like that we’re having such a positive discussion over. I wanted to ask you what ladies should eat too, but let’s talk about the nutrition. If you have no building blocks for your body processes to work, then of course you’re going to be run down, you’re going to be tired. And then a lot of times they write me, ‘I need to change this, but I’m too tired.’ Well, you have to make the changes to get the energy you’re starving. Why do people over 50 have a 50% chance of dying from hip fractures and other muscle mass related diseases?

Dr. John Jaquish: Because they have fragile bone, and they don’t have the muscle mass to discharge abrupt movements. So think of muscles as springs or shock absorbers in your car. Everybody knows there’s springs underneath your car to keep it a bump in the road from breaking something in your car or rattling your teeth out of your head. So that’s there for a reason, stronger muscle discharges the abrupt jar… Like if you don’t see that there’s a curb in front of you and you take a hard step off a curb, maybe you hyper-extend your knee, you still have some musculature in your calves to… Your knees lock, not your quads, but in your calves to slow that down, so that it doesn’t manifest as a fracture. So the two go hand in hand. Fracture avoidance, they call it a musculoskeletal issue. Not just skeletal issue.

Gianna: It’s for the older women, and I don’t know at what age I’m ever going to consider myself to be an older woman, because I feel like a 25 year old. So in essence, what we’re talking about-

Dr. John Jaquish: [crosstalk] good care of yourself. My mother, she constantly talks about how old she is, but she’s in the garden, she’s hiking, she’s doing everything she wants to do. She doesn’t have a lifestyle change.

Gianna: That’s awesome.

Dr. John Jaquish: Because as soon as I fixed her osteopetrosis, I fixed it by the way in 18 months with my first-

Gianna: That was going to be my next question, how long [crosstalk 00:18:22].

Dr. John Jaquish: My first bone density prototype. The prototype that is now OsteoStrong. She has the bones of a 30 year old now and she’s in her eighties.

Gianna: Amazing.

Dr. John Jaquish: Right. She can do anything.

Gianna: Why would someone decide to go to an OsteoStrong location, which are all over the world? That’s like a center you go to and apparently, it seems for 10 minutes, 10 to 15 minutes, you go through these machines that do the bone loading as you said. What would be someone’s decision to go to a location versus getting the X3 Bar?

Dr. John Jaquish: Well, they do different things. OsteoStrong is very focused on bone and bone density. And it’s well, very similar logic, the application is very different with X3. So X3 is really about muscle and body fat. The increase in muscle from the body fat. Both are important. The two greatest indicators of long life. And this is probably the only nutritional research that doesn’t have conflicting research against it, is the two greatest drivers of long life are being lean, and being strong. And so the X3 really addresses that, but also fragility fractures play into that. And when somebody is avoiding a fragility fracture by increasing the bone density by going to OsteoStrong, I think they’re going to be better off long-term.

Gianna: Right. I am so excited to get started with it. And I have one more question. What do menopause women need to be doing in your opinion? What are they doing wrong?

Dr. John Jaquish: Oh, they need to follow your program because they don’t-

Gianna: That was [inaudible] question. [crosstalk] and you also, I started following you and then you wrote something really nice on my Instagram that made me very happy that you liked what I was doing. Thank you for that.

Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, I read everything that you were talking about and I thought, well, I need to talk to Gianna because she’s one of the only people that is not saying an apple and a salad is [crosstalk 00:20:46]. It’s like that’s malnutrition. You’ll die [inaudible 00:00:20:48].

Gianna: There’s some that intermittent fasting is going around and with everything goes around Facebook [inaudible] and there’s women breaking their fast with literally an Apple and a salad, why can’t I lose weight? I’m like, well, you’re not eating anything. I don’t know how they’re doing it, but it goes very deeply into the cortisol and your body processes not working.

Dr. John Jaquish: When you limit the fuel going into your body, the reason cortisol goes up when you have a very calorie restricted meal, is it thinks that you’re for long-term not going to be able to get the proper nutrients. So what cortisol does two things, it gets rid of muscle. So metabolizes muscle. And it makes sure you don’t metabolize body fat. So it keeps your body fat for a longer. The last I checked, there’s nobody in the world that wants that.

Gianna: And unfortunately, people, they get started with the intermittent fasting, which I’m a fan of, but you have to do it, not that it’s complicated, but you have to do it right. And the whole point of it is you’re keeping your insulin low for a longer period of time, but you’re still getting your calories in. And honestly, it’s super fun. It’s not hard. [crosstalk 00:22:06].

Dr. John Jaquish: In the fasted days, you feel great. You have tons of energy.

Gianna: And you get to really enjoy. Most women are probably eating a two, three, 400 calorie meal on their diet all day. You can sit down and have a 800, 1000 calorie meal, which makes you just feel good. And you know, it’s good for dinner time and makes you go to sleep. And it feels fantastic. I try to get them to see what we talked about, the most important thing for me when I began this is, I cannot be an old decrepit woman. I don’t want to be in a nursing home. I’m an unmarried person, there’s no one to take care of me. I have to be strong. And so being strong is number one. Being lean, I like being lean. I like being sexy. I attract ladies that want to be sexy. So I can’t wait to get started with your X3 Bar.

So I have your website on the screen the whole time at jaquishBioMedical.com. You can get the X3 Bar, you can look at the Fortagen, I believe the proteins called. [inaudible] get some of that. And the workouts are there. All the information is there. It’s a 10 minute a day workout. And it’s only five days a week, which was very cool, I looked at that last night. It looks amazing, so I can’t wait to get started and I will be documenting my X3 Bar journey as soon as it arrives. My broken wrist seems to be doing pretty good, so I hope I can maneuver the bar. Your information is just amazing. I was very, very excited when I heard who’s this guy who helped menopause because you don’t really find those kinds of things.

Dr. John Jaquish: I do get invited to a lot of places where I walk in and I realize, this might be 700 people in the building, and I’m the only male. It makes me freeze a little bit, like am I even allowed to be here? Did they know that I’m a guy?

Gianna: We let a couple of you guys in.

Dr. John Jaquish: Sure. It’s always easiest to study something that’s close to you, right? How many oncologists study cancer because they lost a loved one to cancer. A lot of them. Statistically, a lot. So for me it was just, osteoporosis was the only thing that was limiting my mother. And to me, my mother was invincible. [inaudible] Like, what do you mean you have a problem? You don’t have problems. And so it was close to me. So it’s we all have that similar motivation and I wanted to see my mom do everything she liked to do with no limitations. And now, I got what I wanted. She still gives me a lot of unsolicited advice [inaudible 00:24:54].

Gianna: Well, we’re going to keep an eye and you’re speaking all over the world all the time. So this is a very exciting transition into just new information. I try to lead people away from the medical community, away from the meds. Let’s look at health via nutrition and getting our bodies working optimally, getting our processes working optimally, those are my catchphrases. You’re going to hear me saying that a lot. So thank you so much for coming.

Dr. John Jaquish: Thanks, Gianna.