Dr.John Jaquish explains why Weight Lifting is a Waste of Time #
Our old friend, and frequent guest, Dr.John Jaquish ( AKA Doctor J) has a new
book coming out and it is sure to ruffle the feathers of many in the Health &
Weight Lifting is a Waste of Time, so is cardio and there’s a better way to get the body you want. #
Don’t get upset at us at What’s Your Emergency Radio…that’s the title of
Doctor J’s new book.
Doctor J visits the show once again to touch on
habits and his new book, written with Henry Alkire, that is full of references,
studies and evidence that what you’ve always been told about weight lifting and
cardio is wrong. And like any researcher worth their weight (or BMI) will do, he
comes with solutions in tow.
Without pulling any punches, and with evidence to back it up, Doctor J
How science is against free weights and cardio A step by step guide in Chapter 10 to achieve the goals Doctor J has seen An extended chapter about diet, nutrition and intermittent fasting Testosterone, Growth Hormone and how simply breaking a sweat isn’t doing much
for your health or fitness goals at all
MC also discusses his successes with the
and Justin asks a few
too many questions about the science, but Doctor J is always all answers. Full Transcript #
MC: Hey guys, MC here. In this video, we do an interview with Dr. Dr. John
Jaquish, the creator of the
, about his new book,
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
. I know, it’s a pretty awesome title.
Thanks very much. And let’s get to the interview. Cheers… All right so today
we have a returning guest. What is this, like four or five times now?
HM: I don’t know, but he just keeps coming back.
MC: Yeah, he keeps doing new and better and cooler stuff. So welcome back to the
show, Dr. Dr. John Jaquish. How are you, sir?
Dr. John Jaquish: Thanks. I’ll know I’ve been on too much as soon as you guys
both have shaved heads. If you start copying my haircut, then I’m like, yeah I
MC: Okay, I’m going to stop you there-
HM: Never going to happen.
MC: … Because look at this… And this is actually going to be on video. So
the folks at home can look at this gorgeous mop of hair, and I’m off on injury,
so I’m not shaving. I look like a freaking hobo. I love it, it’s fantastic.
HM: He hasn’t been for a proper haircut through this whole COVID thing.
MC: I have one.
Dr. John Jaquish: If you look like a hobo, I’d have no problem with hobos, okay.
Looking way better. I live in the people’s Republic of San Francisco.
MC: That’s a good point.
HM: Hashtag: Okay with hobos.
Dr. John Jaquish: [crosstalk 00:01:44].
MC: Well, the reason you came back on the show today is because you have a new
book. And I’m going to hold it up and I’m going to show it. And you’re not
pulling any punches. There’s no subtlety in the title of this, and I love that.
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
. You got to tell me why you
landed on such a configuration of a title. It’s going to be incendiary, it’s
going to piss people off. Why did you decide to go that route?
Dr. John Jaquish: The number one reason that I picked this actually has nothing
to do with the subject matter. It has to do with my fascination with human
psychology, in that people fall in love with their ideas and they don’t want to
accept that their ideas may be wrong. So-
MC: We were just talking about that on another show.
HM: Yeah [crosstalk 00:00:02:45].
Dr. John Jaquish: I mean, hey, you asked the question, so we’re going down this
HM: Absolutely. I love it, bring it.
Dr. John Jaquish: But it’s so funny, and we can see this in politics, people
don’t want the facts. They want the information that supports what they already
believe in. So if you know somebody who doesn’t like the president, it’s like
anything that says that the president is this total jerk is like, Oh, this is
definitely true. And then something that says the president’s a superhero,
they’re like, ‘Oh, this is all-’
HM: Totally false.
Dr. John Jaquish: So I’m sure you’ve noticed. But it’s like, if you do something
every day, let’s say brushing your teeth. I don’t think anybody’s emotional
about that. You do it every day.
MC: My kid is very emotional about brushing her teeth. But that’s a kid’s job.
HM: Yeah, I think there’s things that we do every day that aren’t controversial.
And yet, according to you, the cover of your book, some things that you’re doing
every day should be controversial. Let me tell you why.
Dr. John Jaquish: They shouldn’t… Here’s actually where I was going, but it’s
close. You shouldn’t be emotional about anything that you do or that you’re
trying to achieve, or whatever. If
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
okay, well, I do that every day. So what’s the better answer? That should be the
question. But instead, somebody says, ‘Something I do every day is a waste of
time. I’m going to get mad.’ I mean, think about that. What a loser would say
something like that?
Yet that’s so many people who get so passionate about defending an idea they
have really no background in. They have very little understanding of, especially
after you read the book, most people are going to be like, wow, those things are
obvious, but those are just not the things that were studied. So, when two
weightlifting programs are put against each other and we try and determine which
one is the best, that still doesn’t say weightlifting is a good idea. That still
doesn’t say it’s a good stimulus for the body. So did we learn that much? No.
HM: Yeah. And I like on the cover of the book that you don’t just come out and
say, ‘This is wrong.’ You come down and say, ‘Well, it’s wrong. And I’m going to
tell you why,’ because you say right on the cover, ‘There’s a better way.’ Which
made me kind of, Oh, well, I want to know what the better way is. So very well
done on that. And plus we’ve been practicing that pose you do on the cover. You
just can’t take a bad picture.
Dr. John Jaquish: I take some bad pictures.
MC: One of the things that-
Dr. John Jaquish: I [inaudible 00:05:40].
MC: I just got your book literally this morning as we record this. So, I started
diving right in. And one of the things that stuck out to me right away is the
footnotes. You don’t just spout things. You don’t say, ‘I’m right and your
wrong,’ you provide sources for the things, and studies that you are saying.
This is the reality of a situation, and here are a bunch of other people that
agree with me.
HM: Citations are always important whenever you’re talking about anything. And I
just want to point out page 206 to our audience, which I looked at earlier.
You’ve got at least a dozen notations for what it is you’re discussing. So
you’re not just coming out and saying these things from a I believe… And you
already said, it’s not that you’re passionate about it, so that these are the
facts. This is what the research supports, and you have the documentation to
support it. And that’s huge.
Dr. John Jaquish: Every statement that’s made, that’s not an explanation of
physiology, is got a citation attached to it. And there’s over 250 citations in
the book, and there’s only 266 pages. So that kind of tells you.
HM: I’ve backed it up, yeah.
MC: It stands out right away. So we talked about the title. One of the things
I’m curious about, because we’ve known one another now for a couple, three
years, an I’m a huge proponent of
. I am an affiliate for the
. I absolutely love the equipment, what it’s done for me
personally. And I thought to myself, what else were you going to do? When last
time we had you on the show, it’s like, you’re not the kind of guy that rests on
your laurels. Well, duh, obviously you wrote a book, but I’m curious to know
Dr. John Jaquish: I’ve been working on that for a couple of years.
MC: That’s what I’m curious about. What led you to write a book? And they say
everybody has a book in them, everybody wants to write a book, but a lot of
people obviously don’t. So what is it about this? What led you to create this?
Dr. John Jaquish: I wanted everything to be in one place, because I put a lot of
stuff, a lot of places in the internet, but really where’s the most in-depth
information in society? It’s in books. Nobody takes the contents of a 300 page
book and puts it on a website, because nobody will read it. It may be a
downloadable PDF, but-
HM: And nobody’s going to highlight it. Nobody’s going to make notes. Nobody’s
going to dog ear the corners and say, ‘Oh, this reminds me of another book I
should go and read again and put a note in there.’ Having an actual physical
copy is something they’re kind of getting away from. But for something like
this, it’s absolutely necessary.
MC: I’ve already started to highlight and make notes in the margins. And that’s
the way I consume nonfiction books. I love me a fiction book, but non-fiction
books require a highlighter and a pencil to make [crosstalk 00:08:39]-
HM: I’ve been known to take notes and highlight in fiction books.
MC: That doesn’t surprise me in the least.
HM: Doesn’t. You say everybody has a book in them, no, I have little ideas to
make my favorite books a little bit better. But you’ve got this-
Dr. John Jaquish: A lot of post-it notes coming out of the side of your Lord of
HM: Oh yeah, plenty. I don’t need to know the history of that forest that
they’re walking past, but it’s 70 pages of it. Thank you very much. Speaking of
which, I don’t want to get too narrowed down on one aspect of the book. I want
to kind of keep it general, but can you speak a little bit about something that
keeps popping up that I keep hearing is, well, if you want to lose weight and be
in better shape, just stop eating. You talk a lot about the importance of
intermittent fasting in your book and how that’s different from caloric
restriction or calorie restriction, just don’t eat.
Dr. John Jaquish: It is very different.
HM: Can you speak to that a little bit?
Dr. John Jaquish: So, the body goes into a mode with caloric restriction and it
imagines that that’s the new normal. So that’s the new normal, you got muscle
that’s burning a lot of calories just by being there. Muscle burns calories
while you sleep, pound of muscle will burn an extra 15 calories a day. So the
body decides, okay, we went from eating 3000 calories a day to 2,500 calories a
day. We’re getting significantly less energy. Now, a calorie is not a calorie.
So I’m speaking about this in very simplified terms, but there’s an energy
deficit coming in. And because of that energy deficit, the body’s always trying
to reach homeostasis.
So how does it get to a homeostasis where it can, it has been surviving on 3000
and now it’s going to survive on 2,500. Well, it massively up-regulates
cortisol, which will sacrifice muscle. So you’ll be metabolizing muscle instead
of fat. And you’re protecting your body fat, and you’ll downregulate growth
hormone. So it’s not protective of muscle, it’ll allow the muscle to be
sacrificed. Cortisol and growth hormone can have an inverse relationship over
the long term. When you exercise, your cortisol goes up a little bit.
Your growth hormone can go up a lot if it’s the right type of exercise. But
that’s what calorie restriction does. Now, you are still burning body fat with
calorie restriction. So bodybuilding is not something I like to cite as anything
because it’s a game of kind of illusions. One of my favorite examples is I can
do this, or I can do this. When I raise my arm, the cross section looks wider.
My bicep looks taller, people are visualizing it from here to here, but when I
put it back down, it doesn’t look as big.
HM: Is that everybody says I’m prettier because I’m taller?
MC: That must be it.
HM: Sorry. You were saying you don’t like to use the term weightlifting because
it’s deceptive, but you’d-
Dr. John Jaquish: I’m glad you’ve been married as long as you have. [Crosstalk
HM: But you’ve got caloric restriction… Now, what’s the difference? How does
my body know in the fasting that I’m not just introducing a new calorie
Dr. John Jaquish: Because your body knows it’s fasting is not long-term, so it
doesn’t try to find a new homeostasis.
HM: Interesting. So forgive this term, [crosstalk] it’s almost in panic mode? It
knows eventually something’s going to happen.
Dr. John Jaquish: We need to be strong enough to catch our next meal. So you
actually increase growth hormone and suppress cortisol, and you use body fat as
your fuel instead of muscle as your fuel.
HM: So it’s the opposite? If I’m listening properly, it’s the… Wow.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, really big difference.
MC: So you haven’t… How long have you been doing intermittent fasting?
Dr. John Jaquish: Since November 1st, 2017.
MC: Okay. Prior to that were you, would you say, a three squares a day kind of a
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, but I was ketogenic.
Dr. John Jaquish: I was almost carnivore.
MC: Okay. So here’s the reason I ask, is one of the things that I’ve done with
is document everything on my YouTube channel, which is
where this is going to go live once it goes live. And people can see the
progress that I’ve made, before and after photos, and all that kind of stuff.
What I have not done is change much of my diet. I’ve cut way back on beer,
you’ll be happy to know, although I am enjoying one right now. But typically I
have cut significantly back, and I’ve noticed some definite changes. One of the
things that I have built into my life is my feet hit the floor and it’s
breakfast time. Not because it’s the most important meal of the day. I get that
that’s not a thing, it’s marketing. I understand that.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, they did make that up. That’s in the book.
MC: It is, and I read it. But I am hungry. Some days if I’m running late, I
don’t grab anything, and I try and make it longer. So when you first started
doing it, even let’s say pre-2017 and you’d skip a meal, did your body tell you,
‘Hey, dummy, you need to eat because I feel my blood sugar drop, and I turn into
a right pain in the ass.’
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. You said the right word, it’s because you’re addicted to
sugar, because you keep eating carbohydrates. Fasting and carbohydrates, they
don’t go together.
MC: They don’t mix?
Dr. John Jaquish: No.
MC: So what on a… I know you do OMAD, one meal a day. So what time of day do
you eat, if you’re not fasting, and what do you eat?
Dr. John Jaquish: If I’m doing OMAD, I throw up quite a few 48 hour, the one
meal every 48 hours. And usually three pounds of meat.
MC: In just one-off sitting, right? Yeah.
HM: That’s significant. We have a rule in the firehouse, a pound per man is what
you should be buying. And that’s just for our evening meal. So if you’re looking
at three pounds in one sitting, that’s a significant amount. But you’re also
doing that with the fasting. And you mentioned, and I’ll go back to this in a
little while. In the back of the book, John’s protocol, you mention a certain
amount of protein per meal. That was pre-fasting, yes? The 150 of protein per
meal that you mentioned in the protocol on the back of the book?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, that’s in the one meal every 48 hours or 72 hours.
HM: So that is… Wow.
Dr. John Jaquish: I want to make sure I get over a gram per pound of body
HM: Holy cow.
MC: One of the things that stood out to me, when you look in the contents
section there’s 10 chapters, and they average a dozen or so pages, ish. Maybe 20
here, 20 there. But it’s chapter 6, optimizing nutrition, what we’ve been
talking about that is 53 pages long. And I have heard tell a number of times
people say abs are made in the kitchen. It looks to me like, yes, you’ve created
. You’ve done amazing work with Osteostrong. You’ve done
all these things. And yet the lion’s share-
Dr. John Jaquish: I agree with that too.
MC: … Of your book, however, isn’t about those things. It’s about what you put
in your body. Why is that such an important aspect that gets overlooked in 98%
of the stuff that’s on the market today?
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, when I developed
, it was the superior
training system. It made weight training look very inefficient and ineffective.
I won’t say made it look like it was a joke, but kind of. People were… It’s a
big confusion in the public where they think a painful workout means you
stimulated a lot. That’s completely not true. In the last, so it’s been over
three years now, I’ve put on over 60 pounds of muscle. I’ve never been sore from
a workout, in that last 60 pounds. Never. And also there’s three studies I do
cite in the book, which show how muscle damage is inversely related to growth.
So as in the more muscle damage you create, the less growth you have, not the
So a lot of guys who lift, and they try and beat themselves up, and then they’re
really proud of themselves, they did worse. And so once creating the absolute
best training system, I thought, okay, where are people failing now? Because if
you use the
correctly, a lot of these issues just go away,
the muscle damage. Unless you use X3 Bar
incredibly wrong, you’re
not going to get any muscle damage from it. There’s a lot of things that solve
themselves. Now I’m always surprised how people will go off the reservation and
invent their own stupid way of using it. And I tell them, never do that. You’ve
MC: Oh yeah, I sure have.
HM: I laugh every time on the ambulance.
Dr. John Jaquish: So, I mean, I really work hard to convince people, ‘Don’t
invent your own way of doing this. Follow the program. Everything is the way it
is for a reason. You want to maximize hypoxia. You want to keep constant
tension. You want diminishing range, so you actually fatigue every possible
range of motion.’ I see people, they get done with their full range repetitions,
and then they just go, okay. And they just drop the bar.
It’s like, where’s the other half of your workout? You didn’t do it. But once
after creating all that, I said, ‘Where are people failing?’ And I saw people
who just didn’t, they do everything perfectly and they just didn’t really grow
much muscle. So I start asking questions. Now I already knew what my body needed
because I researched it. But there is as much nutrition confusion as there is
exercise information confusion.
Dr. John Jaquish: There was a thing like, ‘Oh, you don’t need much protein,’
funded by Nabisco, of course, because they don’t sell anything with protein it.
HM: Try our shakes and our bars and do this and subscribe to that.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, a lot of that.
HM: And a couple of things that you mentioned before, what have I heard all the
time? No pain, no gain. It hurts so good. Not accurate.
Dr. John Jaquish: No.
HM: All these things we’ve been taught. My world is exploding.
Dr. John Jaquish: Also, the time, you don’t need a lot of time to stimulate your
body to grow. So it was the nutrition that people were doing wrong. And like I
said, I knew I needed a gram per pound of body weight, and that was the
lifestyle I was living. Now I wasn’t growing a muscle before
because I was just using regular weights and it’s a lousy stimulus. But as soon
as I started, it was like, I was putting on size very quickly, and I was getting
leaner very quickly. And so I needed to help people. I mean, probably a quarter
of the book is about nutrition, maybe even a little more.
MC: Yeah. It really underlines the importance of it. And we’re talking again to
Dr. Dr. John Jaquish, creator of the
and author of
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
. Let’s talk about your subtitle, So
is Cardio. So I have a question about cardio. Now-
HM: You’ve just upset the other half of the audience.
MC: Exactly. We dialed them in and now we’re just smacking them in the face.
Yeah, that’s great.
HM: Which is good exercise.
MC: So here’s the thing, I hate to run. I’ve never liked running, motor officers
do not run.
HM: Being chased?
MC: It’s stupid. If somebody’s chasing me, then they’re going to get hurt
because I’m just going to shoot them. If appropriate.
MC: Yeah. But here’s my thing about cardio that I’m curious what your opinion
is. Stamina. When we’re in the Academy and we have to do what’s called the bull
in the ring, we’ve got to fight for three solid minutes. And I know you work
with MMA fighters and professional athletes who are going, going, going, and
they’ve gained huge benefits from
. Does cardio have a place
to build that stamina? Not for muscle building, for endurance.
Dr. John Jaquish: The best way to answer this question is to take a step back.
And I’ll just say there’s actually no such thing as cardio. Cardio-
HM: You have my attention.
Dr. John Jaquish: What we call cardiovascular training is really just shitty
strength training that you won’t get any results from. Now, are there some
cardiac benefits? Yes. The heart is able to pump blood a little more
efficiently. However, there are more cardiac strength benefits, including
stamina, from weight training, from regular resistance training, and
even more so because it places an even greater demand on the
heart. So, there have been more than 100 studies on this, and I don’t refer to
all of them, but I refer to a meta-analysis that refers to all of them. I talk
about that meta-analysis in the cardio section, which isn’t really all that long
because this information has been out there for 40 years.
For 40 years, medical science has known that when you do cardiovascular
exercise, you’re showing your body a, it’s a little like caloric deficit,
showing your body a deficit in energy. And what people think is that’s going to
pull the energy out of fat cells. That’s not what happens, because your body’s
trying to reach homeostasis. It’s like, okay, we’ve got to run 20 miles every
day. We don’t store the energy for that. So your central nervous system is like
an engineering team, and it’s remodeling you all the time. That’s what I mean by
trying to find homeostasis. So if you want to be an economy car and go long
distances, do economy cars have V12 engines?
HM: Not usually.
Dr. John Jaquish: No. So it’s going to make your engine smaller. So it increases
cortisol and sacrifices muscle, not body fat. That’s where we get the term
skinny fat. So you see a lot of runners, they’re thin, but they’re still really
flabby. They look soft, and they jiggle when they move because it [crosstalk
HM: Thanks for noticing. I want to bring up something that you’re talking about,
eating muscle, and we’re really looking for the most efficient way of burning
what it is that we have. Where does testosterone fit into all this when you talk
about burning muscle?
Dr. John Jaquish: Burning muscle or burning fat?
HM: Either or. I mean, I hear a lot of stuff coming around, the firehouse guys
are in the gym. They’re talking about, ‘I need more testosterone,’ more this,
more that. Where do these hormones fit in with what we should be doing? Because
I feel like there’s a big disconnect in the nomenclature that people are using
in the gym and the evidence that’s in your book.
Dr. John Jaquish: So, testosterone plays a role in maintaining muscle, growth
hormone plays a bigger role. And when you do cardio, you suppress growth hormone
also. So it doesn’t protect muscle and muscle starts to metabolize. Building new
muscle has a lot to do with testosterone. Maintaining it is kind of testosterone
and growth hormone, but growth hormone is not anabolic. So growth hormone by
itself, not really going to build anything.
HM: All right, there you go.
Dr. John Jaquish: Answer your question?
HM: Yeah, and anabolic versus aerobic, right? That’s the distinction that you’re
making there or am I wrong?
Dr. John Jaquish: No, I mean, anabolic versus catabolic.
HM: Okay. Got it.
Dr. John Jaquish: Like cortisol is catabolic, it breaks down tissue. Anabolic
means growing tissue.
HM: There’s so many terms that get thrown out, especially at the firehouse and
the gym. And now guys are starting to flip these tires over and they’re moving
ropes up and down. I go in and I say, ‘Just pick it.’ Do you-
MC: Those are [inaudible] ropes, man. Those are battle ropes.
HM: Do you want the rope up, or do you want the rope down? I mean, let’s just
find a happy medium for it. And it seems like people kind of grab onto, and you
talk about it in the book a lot, the marketing, the things they’ve been sold.
They grab onto this idea that supports what they want to do. So all of a sudden,
Dr. John Jaquish: 12 years ago, kettle bells where everything. It was like the
secret to fitness was kettle bells. And it’s an iron slug with a handle on it,
guys. There’s no magic.
HM: People have been posting pictures with blisters on their hands, like, look
at my workout. And I’m thinking, why would you do that to your hands?
MC: Well, to be fair, go ahead.
HM: I have the softest hands.
MC: Using the latest
, man, that builds up some calluses on
the hands. You’re an advocate of not using gloves? There you go. Exactly
correct. Not using gloves, your grip strength will improve. And I was real
nervous about that when I started doing this a couple of years ago. And when I
restarted in March doing it religiously, didn’t miss a day, six days a week. And
I built up those callouses and my grip got stronger, just by doing what you’d
said to do.
HM: Weird. It’s like the doc says to do it, you did it and it worked.
MC: It did. It absolutely worked.
HM: What’s the trick?
MC: There’s no trick. It’s just the-
HM: There’s no [crosstalk] success, right?
Dr. John Jaquish: Never accept a crutch, in gloves, in wrist-wraps.
HM: Putting that on a t-shirt.
Dr. John Jaquish: Somebody hands you a crutch and you’re like, ‘No, I got this.’
And you walk. You force yourself to walk as close to a regular cadence and
pattern as possible. Because once you offload a certain part of the body, now
you’re building an imbalance.
MC: I will say that when-
Dr. John Jaquish: Guys, they want to have a bigger deadlift, so they use wrist
wraps, but then I can tell who they are because they have skinny little forearms
and then bigger trapezius muscles. Now you look stupid.
MC: One of the things I’ve seen on the Facebook with
people getting injured because they’ll let go of the bar, which is never a good
idea. But one of the things that I kept in mind, I do not get distracted when
I’m doing my X3 Bar
. I am very, very aware of the amount of force
that is involved. So back in the early days, when I felt my grip strength
starting to go way before anything else went, that’s when I stopped. Because I
don’t want to let fly 300 pounds of force onto the tops of my feet because
that’s not going to feel good.
HM: That’s how you meet people like me.
Dr. John Jaquish: Or you [inaudible 00:29:10].
MC: Yeah, absolutely. Don’t push it beyond your capacity just because you want
to lift heavier. It behooves you to A, obviously follow the program, but B,
listen to your own body. And when it says, okay, that’s enough, then dial it
back. Keep going, but just dial it back a little bit until you can’t go anymore.
That’s what you talk about with a diminishing range of motion. And it took me a
long time to wrap my brain around that.
Dr. John Jaquish: I see people post videos, they’re doing
They bothered to film themself doing X3 Bar
. Well, they also had the
TV on. And it’s like, you idiot, you’re distracted.
HM: That’s going to hurt.
Dr. John Jaquish: You wouldn’t watch TV at the firing range. They don’t put on,
whatever, some comedy program while you’re shooting, so you can look over and
laugh at the jokes.
HM: But doc, every time I go to the gym, there’s a TV. I’ve got to have a TV.
That’s where it’s coming from, I’m sure.
MC: That’s a good point.
Dr. John Jaquish: Every time you go to the gym, there’s a lot of stupid shit
laying around that shouldn’t be.
HM: And for example, [crosstalk] going to the gym.
MC: The second biggest chapter we’ll talk about-
Dr. John Jaquish: Going to the gym is the real problem.
HM: It’s the number one stupidest part about the gym.
MC: I know you got a busy day ahead of you. We’re going to let you go here in
just a minute. Again, we’re talking with Dr. John Jaquish, the author of
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time, So is Cardio
, and There’s a Better
Way to Have the Body You Want. The second biggest chapter you’ve got is all
about the falsehoods of fitness. And we already talked about one, actually made
a note, number four, that sore feeling, and we already touched on it.
I think that’s an excellent point is that we know that these things are out
there, but what I love about your book is you not only call them out for what
they are, you support them with citations, and why this is a falsehood. How many
falsehoods did you come up with? Because I haven’t gotten to that chapter yet,
but I did briefly go through. And I know you also have a YouTube series.
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, I didn’t put them all in there, I think 11 made it into
the book. I have about 80 written and I know they’re wrong, but I don’t have the
right library of literature behind them to… I make sure when I say one of
these things, I give a couple of studies that prove it. So I mean, nothing in
this book is my opinion. Nothing, not a fucking thing. So I back it up with
science, with everything. And if you look at all the scientific studies in the
order that I identify them and discuss them, everyone will come to the same
conclusion that I did.
Forrest Griffin wrote the foreword of the book, he came to the same conclusion,
as well as the person from NASA who gave me the endorsement, she’s a medical
doctor, Dr. Sean Baker, Ben Greenfield. And the strength coach from the Miami
Heat, he wrote an endorsement, which is on the website. These are people who
really know what they’re doing. Dr. Baker is a world record deadlift holder. He
knows a little bit about strength and he’s a physician. Brilliant guy. And
immediately. I don’t think he loved the title. He didn’t tell me. I mean, he’s a
world champion in weightlifting, so
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
And there was a long silence on the phone [inaudible 00:32:52].
HM: Until he sees the citations, he sees the evidence. It jives with-
Dr. John Jaquish: I don’t say resistance training is a waste of time, I say
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
. The problem with weight lifting is
you’re holding the same weight here that you’re holding here, but you’re seven
times stronger right here than you are here. So why not outweigh the changes, so
you can exhaust in accordance with your natural biology.
MC: That actually [crosstalk 00:33:24]… That comes up in the introduction.
HM: Very early on.
MC: Page 21, right there. And there’s an example of exactly what you’re talking
about. So the big question that I want to know… Actually, before I get to
that, I’m going to be totally upfront with you. I’m not going to read all those
studies, but you know what I’m going to do? I’m going to use the
and follow the program. Because there’s a guy, I’ll be honest
with you, I don’t have freaking time to read all that stuff, man. I don’t. I’m
not going to make that effort, but-
Dr. John Jaquish: Don’t look up the studies.
MC: But I know you, I trust your medical research, your citations. I’ve talked
to you repeatedly. I have made the investment in the equipment, and I know
firsthand what it has done for me. And I’ve said it time and time again, the
only attaboy I needed was when I walked out of the shower and the wife said,
‘This is working for you.’ What better-
HM: I say it half a dozen times, not a word, but the wife says it…
MC: That’s a good point. So, Doc, where can we find this book?
Dr. John Jaquish: It launches on Amazon on the 18th. I would tell people to just
go to the website, the [inaudible] biomedical website. I have a new website, I’m
not sure if it’s up today, but let’s give it a shot. It’s doctorj.com.
MC: D-O-C-T-O-R. Got it. And just a single J, not J-A-Y. Single J.
Dr. John Jaquish: Single J.
HM: Yeah, we’ll put that in there. So if you’re listening to this in the
archives, there’s a very good chance that website exists and you can head over
and check out the book. Otherwise, Google is your friend, but as we always say
when we have guests that have a book out, guys, go to their website to order the
book first. Don’t automatically go to the big warehouses. If you can go in and
get it from the actual source, that is always the best thing to do.
MC: Yeah, absolutely.
Dr. John Jaquish: We’re actually only selling it through Amazon and Barnes and
Noble, it is a big publisher.
MC: Oh, there you go. Never mind. [inaudible 00:35:31].
Dr. John Jaquish: My first book I did self-publishing on Amazon, and weirdly
enough, that was a huge seller. That’s even used as a textbook in England to
MC: That’s awesome.
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s the most boring book, I don’t recommend it.
HM: And when you realize that there’s some kids somewhere learning how to do
things right that is required to read your book, how does that make you feel?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. I went to the hospital center at University of East
London, and I looked at a bookshelf and I see 15 copies of my book. And I’m
like, all right, who’s playing a joke on me?
MC: Am I being Punk’d? I’m being Punk’d, huh?
HM: Who’s in charge of moving these books after I leave?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. And they’re like, ‘No, no, no. We teach with that.’
MC: Inside it’s just the catalog of Playboys.
HM: Yeah, they’re all the same.
Dr. John Jaquish: You open it up, and it’s…
MC: It’s all bad.
Dr. John Jaquish: Magazines and…
MC: Doc, thanks so much for coming back on the show. We really appreciate it. I
can’t wait to dive all the way into
Weightlifting is a Waste of Time
I love the poking the bear aspect of it. I think it’s fantastic. Speaking of
good marketing, I think that’s a real good idea. So thanks for coming on the
show. We appreciate your time, man.
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s a controversial title. It’s controversial, people are
going to pay attention to.
MC: Yep. That’s-
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s true, I believe this. And I have all the references to
back it up.
MC: Exactly, you backed it up.
MC: Love it. Perfect.
HM: That’s the most important part to me. Doc, thank you so much for coming on
the show. Hopefully we’ll have you on in a little bit with your next book.
MC: Yeah, whatever your next crazy thing is.
HM: Which will make the next group of people angry, I’m sure. And more
citations, please. Come on.
MC: Yeah, put some effort in, will you?
HM: All right, doc. Thanks, be well.
Dr. John Jaquish: Bye-bye.