In this episode , we chat with fitness inventor, Dr. John Jaquish, best-selling author of Weight Lifting Is a Waste of Time: So Is Cardio, and There’s a Better Way to Have the Body You Want , and the creator of the X3 .
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Richie Glanzer: Good evening, everybody. This is Richie Glanzer for Sport Chant Interviews. Today I am with Dr. John Jaquish, the creator of X3 . The author of Weight Lifting Is a Waste of Time: So Is Cardio, and There’s a Better Way to Have the Body You Want . John, how are you today?
Dr. John Jaquish: I’m super. Thanks, Richie.
Richie Glanzer: So Weightlifting is a Waste of Time, that hasn’t caused you any problems with that title, right?
Dr. John Jaquish: No, it caused a lot of other people some problems, but these are people who are unable to understand science. So there’s a lot of those, but that’s fine.
Richie Glanzer: So can you tell me about X3 ?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. Yeah. It’s the world’s most powerful variable resistance product. Every study that’s ever been done on variable resistance as opposed to static resistance, shows more muscular growth with variable resistance. So yeah, it’s superior to regular weight training. So you grow more muscle mass and more muscular strength in a shorter period. And yes, everybody is happy with it. So we’ve been marketing the product for about three years. And the average consumer product has a 30% return rate, we have a less than 1% return rate. I mean, some people, get it and they only unwrap the lightest band, which is the lightest resistance setting.
And I can tell by the way it’s shipped back to us, because the resistance is done with the very heavy latex bands, but if they only did the lightest one? And the comments just were like, “Oh, I didn’t realize this would be hard.” So, okay. Exercise is hard.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah. Now, when I-
Dr. John Jaquish: I don’t know why that’s a surprise to people, but yeah.
Richie Glanzer: So for those that have never seen it, I suggest going to YouTube and watching John do it. So I was watching and I was amazed, to be honest with you, because I go to the gym, not super regularly. I lift the weights a little. So I didn’t hear of the product until I found I was interviewing you. And then I researched with it, and my God, I got it. For instance for people, the other day I was trying to bench 195 pounds, seven times. So I was going up. So I was working alone at my gym. I work for a police gym. So I was the only person in the room. And at the fifth rep, I felt I could do a sixth, and even possibly a seventh, but I wasn’t a hundred percent sure. And I couldn’t go for it, because what happens if I miss it? Now, if go and don’t have the clips and it goes all the side at a police station, it’s going to hear… That’s a bad sound. You don’t want that at a police station.
Richie Glanzer: So when I found out about this, I was like, “I could have gone for it if I was using the bands.”
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. Right. So it lets you go to absolute fatigue. And when you do the sets with variable resistance, so we do a diminishing range of repetitions. So when I’m doing a chest press, I hold 550 pounds out here, which is almost a full-extension, but not quite. So there’s a 120-degree angle here.
So I do repetitions until I can’t get that full range. And then I do half repetitions. So halfway chest press, because the weight halfway is 300 pounds. And then the bottom, the last repetition, I’m only maybe holding a hundred pounds, but I’ve completely fatigued every range of motion independently in one set, without letting tension off. So there’s a hypoxic effect, a greater sarcoplasmic effect, and a greater myofibril effect. So all three types of muscle growth, three pathways to muscle growth. They’re not types.
Well, myofibril and sarcoplasmic are types of growth. But when that happens, the muscle’s just going to grow much faster than it ever could with weight, because we have the variable capacity, yet we use static weight. It’s stupid.
Richie Glanzer: And the thing is, right? Tell me if I’m wrong because I’m not a science guy. So when I’m going at 185, right? And I can’t go anymore and I’m done, meanwhile, I can go 135, but when you’re doing it with a barbell, I would only go halfway. And no one does that. And then at the end, I could only go once or twice. And I think those extra reps that you can’t do with a barbell, even if you have a spotter, is what you can do with X3, correct?
Dr. John Jaquish: Right, right. So you actually can take your muscle to the absolute maximum. Whereas really when you look at a regular set, the stimulus is garbage. First of all, why do we do more than one set? How many sets do you need to do in the sunlight to get a suntan? It’s a stupid question. Right. The only reason we do more than one set is that the stimulus is garbage.
So why do we keep doing this? And then also, I come out with this argument. And here’s what the book looks like if somebody’s watching this. Weight Lifting Is a Waste of Time: So Is Cardio, and There’s a Better Way to Have the Body You Want , it’s a red cover, got a picture of me on it. So one of the arguments we make in the book is, why are people hanging onto the fitness industry and it’s standards anyway? Who’s really fit?
Richie Glanzer: I saw somewhere where you said, only around 1% of people are… It’s the most failed industry, right?
Dr. John Jaquish: So 6.6% of males in the United States have used, or are currently using anabolic steroids, yet 1% is only under 10.9% body fat. That’s pathetic. 10.9% body fat is not impressive. You might be able to see your top abdominals, but not your bottom. You still got a fat roll there. Right, right. It’s just like, that’s the top 1%. So who’s really fit? Maybe one out of-
Richie Glanzer: You.
Dr. John Jaquish: … 50,000 people? Right now if you go into the, just pick a random city like Wichita Falls. You’re in Wichita Falls, go to Planet Fitness. You walk into Planet Fitness and you see a bunch of average, which means fat, people working out. And you go to the pizza hut next door, and it’s the same potty composition. Everyone’s the same.
I have a few friends that just have traditionally, some of them have switched over now that X3 came out and they see how quickly the results come on. But they were just nonexercisers. And I’d be like, “Why don’t you care about exercise?” And they’re like, “Why should I? My friends who work out don’t look any different than me. They’re overweight and they got skinny arms.” Skinny arms and a double chain are what I call them, or baby arms and a double chin. And it’s just like, what are they getting out of it? I know people who’ve gone to the gym for 20 years, and they don’t look like they work out at all.
Richie Glanzer: So let me ask you this, is that what motivated you to create this? Because I’m sure when you were a kid, what age did you decide to do this? Were you a weightlifter growing up? And were you one of the people that knew what you were doing, based on your love of science?
Dr. John Jaquish: There is no knowing what you’re doing when it comes to lifting weights, there are some pretty significant genetic differences. Certain people are built to be at a great advantage of stimulating muscle growth, and I’ll explain that. But you asked about me. So for me, I was not one of those people with the genetics to put on muscle. So I did wrestling, swimming, and track in high school. So I was lean, but I weighed 130 pounds, six-foot, 130, so real skinny.
And getting lean was easy. Well, it’s not easy, but I knew how to do it. Wrestling taught me that. You know any American wrestlers, they know how to cut weight. Right, right, right. And it was dry fasting. You have no food, no water, for multiple days. Or maybe you’d eat at night or whatever, drink something at night, then you go right back into it. And yeah, I had veins in my abdominals all through high school.
Dr. John Jaquish: So I looked incredible but just skinny. So I just couldn’t really put on muscle until I developed the X3, which was after I turned 40. Right. Most people after they turn 40, don’t put on a lot of muscle.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah. I mean, it’s funny you mentioned the wrestling thing. I actually am very good friends with a female wrestler named Brianna Gideon. I don’t coach her wrestling, I am just a person that I went to some of her tournaments on I was her coach there. And it’s funny you mentioned that, because she tried to become a bodybuilder, and she was never so weak in her life. Now, she looked like she had muscle upon muscle, but she was just one of the… She couldn’t lift anything. She does lift weights. And it was just odd. I was like, “Wow, you look so strong, but your weights are really, they’re not impressive.”
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. There’s that. Most athletes are trained very specifically for what they do. And yeah, like bodybuilding training isn’t necessarily, depending on your approach… Now, there is something, of course, these people call themselves this, but they call themselves power bodybuilders, so they train like powerlifters, but they compete in bodybuilding. They’re not weak, because they’re working on very close movement. And they do have much thicker musculature than the standard lightweight, lots of sets, lots of reps bodybuilders. So there’s that. That’s what she did.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah. She’s become much better now. I mean, now she’s double what she was lifting now. But I want to get back to you and the book, Weightlifting is a Waste of Time. So tell us about the book, how it correlates with X3, and some of the success. I mean, it was a number one Wall Street Journal, correct?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, yeah. For weeks. It’s still at the top of Amazon. It’s been the number one book in men’s health for, I think six straight months. As of last week, it was still number one. I haven’t checked. But pretty proud of that. That’s pretty cool.
Richie Glanzer: I don’t blame you.
Dr. John Jaquish: Especially with all the controversy. A lot of haters will just show up and say, “Well, this book is about a product.” Not true. This book is the rationale of why a product was created. But I mean, if Steve jobs wrote a book, it wasn’t like, “Well, this son of a bitch is just trying to sell more phones.” Yeah. And if you’re upset, don’t buy it. Yeah.
Richie Glanzer: I read that a lot of the pages weren’t, less than half were about X3 and it was more about why weightlifting isn’t as successful.
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s a 260-page book, and 40 of the pages are specifically about X3. I mean, why would I talk about X3? Well, it’s my work. It was developed to solve a problem. And here’s the rationale that I went through, so people understand why I did what I did. Because I’m a controversial guy, I say weightlifting is a waste of time. I say cardio is a waste of time. I also think vegetables are a waste of time. No, I don’t think that I can prove it scientifically. So there’s a lot of things that people have told you but also think about things that people told you that was just proven wrong like breakfast is the most important meal of the day. That shit was written by Kellogg’s, and they developed cereal. You can look that up. That’s in the book by the way. And I explained the whole thing. Nobody was eating their breakfast cereal, because people didn’t eat breakfast back then.
Dr. John Jaquish: So they developed the whole concept of breakfast, by saying it was the most important meal of the day. They got a couple of doctors to say that in an article. It’s not true. There’s nothing about breakfast that makes it any better or worse than any other meal. However, eating more meals is worse. So there’s plenty of studies. I prefer the animal model studies because animals don’t lie to researchers and go out drinking one night. Especially you’re not allowed to put people in cages when you do studies. Like, “You sign up for a study, you’re going to get a lot of money for this. You got to live in a cage though, a month.”
Richie Glanzer: Let me tell you something. You give me enough money, I’ll be okay with going into a cage for a long time.
Dr. John Jaquish: The ethics boards are a little aggressive. There’s like, you want to do some studies that’ll push the envelope from ethics boards? Some countries are like, “Yeah. Okay. You can put people in cages.” Or you can put them in a building, they can’t leave. I don’t mean cage.
Richie Glanzer: I know. You put my dog next to me, I’ll be fine. He won’t go in the cage, I’ve tried. But anyway, I have a question for you here, because there’s another controversial thing you said. You eat once every 48 hours or one meal. Could you explain that?
Dr. John Jaquish: So sometimes I do that. So I work out six days a week. On my non-workout day, there’s no reason to eat at all because I didn’t stimulate any growth. I can still recover via autophagy, so my cells can recycle themselves, so like old scar tissue. My scars are eating themselves from the inside. I used to have a huge scar on my chin, which is hard to even find now. It was huge, you’d notice it first thing we started talking. It was a motorcycle crash when I was a kid. Just riding a dirt bike without a helmet on a public road like a jerk. I’m a jerk. It’s funny.
Richie Glanzer: We all are. So the 48 hours thing, do you have any snacks, an apple?
Dr. John Jaquish: No. No, no, no. That screws up everything. Anybody who says they’re fasting while they’re eating a granola bar, just kick that guy out of your house. Idiot. It’s not a thing. And there’s no such thing as fasting-mimicking, I hear this all the time. What it is, is basically like a candy bar, it’s made of mostly fiber, and obviously honey or some shit.
Richie Glanzer: And I’ve read that you think fiber is pointless.
Dr. John Jaquish: Fiber’s pointless. No reason to eat fiber. The concept is so stupid, the idea that fiber keeps things moving through your system, is when you have a plugged-up toilet, you just throw a bath towel in your toilet and flush it 20 times. Is that going to unplug it?
Richie Glanzer: I understand.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. It’s not going to apply. It’s going to make it worse.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. There are a few studies. I think it’s a harmless food. Yeah, you can have it. It goes right through you. Does it make you feel… There are some advantages? It makes you feel full like you ate something. That won’t be digested, so fiber goes right through you. So there’s something there, but it’s always paired with sugar in nature. So it’s paired with sugar, and the sugar’s addictive, and it’s keeping you from secreting leptin and ghrelin, which are the two hormones that tell you, you’re not hungry anymore until you fall. So if there’s none of that, well then, oh shit. Then you’re hungry all the time.
Richie Glanzer: For the people that… Listen, most people aren’t going to be able to not eat for 48 hours. That’s just-
Dr. John Jaquish: That’s pretty rare. Mostly I’m one meal a day person. So just a big dinner, lots of steaks.
Richie Glanzer: Lots of steaks. So you eat nothing until 6:00 PM or something?
Dr. John Jaquish: Right about then. Depends on the other people I’m eating with. They tend to have opinions on the subject, unfortunately.
Richie Glanzer: And now you don’t have vegetables, right? So it’s steak and what else? Or just that’s it?
Dr. John Jaquish: I’ll have eggs.
Richie Glanzer: And how much water should you be intaking?
Dr. John Jaquish: When hydrating, like when I’m eating I’m also hydrating. I’ll drink a lot of water. Now, the recommendation is for people to have two liters of water a day. Have you ever read the study?
Richie Glanzer: I have not.
Dr. John Jaquish: That’s okay because it doesn’t exist. And somebody at Avion made that up. I don’t know. I can’t find the source of that, but there are zero studies that say this. In fact, the British Medical Journal published a study that said that it’s a medical myth, that you need two liters of water per day. They don’t know where it came from. Even the guys that are publishing in the British Medical Journal, which is one of the best medical journals in the world, have no idea where it came from. They have a lot more time and resources than I do. Now, I mean, the journal doesn’t publish as a professor, but you get my drift.
Richie Glanzer: It’s funny you say that though. So I had a nutritionist, and she always told me to drink all the water, I don’t remember how much she said. I was literally peeing every 10 minutes at work. And I was useless and I couldn’t do it. I was like, “I can’t physically do it. I’m bursting literally every 10 minutes.”
Dr. John Jaquish: Think back when early Homo sapiens actually had to work, which is everybody or they died. . Well, no. Not Neanderthal, I’m talking about Homo sapiens here.
Richie Glanzer: Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: So a little bit after that. So we’re the same creatures, but we don’t have houses or electricity. We have a fire, that’s about it. So if you and I were in a tribe and we were hunting mammoth throwing spears into it, I think it took 30 spears to take one of those things down. So you hunt it for days. You’re pounding spears into the side of it, its ribs, trying to get it to go down.
So for two or three days, you think we got our 30-ounce hydro flask with us like people do today? We also make this mistake like, “Oh, early people, they were all vegans.” Which is absolutely untrue, a total lie. Because where were the farms? Right? Those didn’t exist. Farming didn’t exist until modern times. So that comment is completely asinine. Also, carbohydrates don’t bloom year-round. Basically, in nature, no matter where you are, it’s at the end of the warm season, going into the cold season.
Dr. John Jaquish: So late fall is when you get fruit and vegetables. So the idea that people were eating vegetables all year long, completely impossible. They weren’t there, they weren’t available.
Richie Glanzer: I mean, this is all new stuff that a lot of people haven’t heard, and it makes a lot of sense when you’re saying it. And I think the point where really you could where you like, “Hey, he knows what he’s talking about.” Is that you work with a lot of professional athletes who are at the top. And I’m going to name a couple here because I saw some pictures. What’s was his name? Tom Brady. That guy. Yeah. Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski. Two guys who are not 22, 23 years old. Brady’s in his forties, Gronk, he’s in his thirties, but he’s a beat-up guy. So they’re using X3. I mean, what do you think about that? Are you surprised?
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, there’s a ton of professional athletes that use X3 exclusively, that’s the way they train. I can’t speak specifically about guys that I don’t compensate. So let’s do the guys I mentioned. What they do and what they put out on the internet, okay. But I can just speak generically about how many athletes there are. And the really famous guys, generally they want to be paid for their name and image, and I don’t do that. A paid endorsement is just like, who cares? Dwayne Johnson represents Under Armour. Well, does he wear Under Armour because it’s the absolute best, or because he got paid to do it? I suppose you could argue it either way, but why even have the question? Because the athletes allow me to use their name and image, I didn’t pay them anything. They just love it. They just think it’s the greatest thing they’ve ever used, and they want to share that with their friends. So it’s like, “Can I put your picture using the X3 on the website?” And they’re like, “Absolutely.”
Dr. John Jaquish: So there are over 30 athletes that use X3, that have made that agreement with me. And then of course the Miami Heat, the entire team, they gave up on lifting weights and they’re all X3. And they coincidentally have the least injuries in the league.
Richie Glanzer: So that’s actually what I want to get to, especially if you don’t mind, I want to just say one thing about Brady, and being that he’s in his forties. I know from experience because I actually started lifting weights when I was 42. I didn’t really lift anything until then. And I was really into it. And my bones started hurting. I got a little torn rotator cuff. There was a point where it was diminishing returns, where I literally stopped being able to lift weights because it just was hurting too much. So I had to go really decrease and go downward. Obviously with Tom Brady, he’s found the fountain of youth. Father time gets us all, but he’s losing to Brady right now. And that could possibly be one of the reasons. Right?
Dr. John Jaquish: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Well, again, I can’t comment on who uses… I don’t have a written release from them.
Richie Glanzer: I got you.
Dr. John Jaquish: I will say, he has been an advocate of variable resistance training for a long time. And X3 is variable resistance training. Every study says it’s superior, which is why I don’t understand the pushback from the industry, other than the fact that… Jordan Peterson gave me a little advice on this. And I’ve never actually spoken to Jordan, but I know his daughter. And Jordan says that only 20% of the population, 20% of Western people are not mentally capable of doing anything beyond mopping the floor. That’s how dumb they are.
Richie Glanzer: Who is Jordan Peterson?
Dr. John Jaquish: He’s a very famous psychologist. If you Googled him, you’ll be like, “Oh, that guy. I’ve seen that guy speak everywhere.” You’d recognize him. So, Professor Peterson, he’s brilliant. And he points this out like, “One of the problems with our society as it moves forward.” He’s just speaking from a psychological perspective. Are these people, once we have robots that are mopping the floor, what are we going to do with them? They can’t do anything. They can’t drive a car for a living, they’ll crash it. Also if you want to understand the internet better, there’s a 1999 study. This is going to be your favorite study, by the way. It’s everybody’s favorite study. But most people don’t know about it. It’s called the Janine Krueger Study, 1999. What it says is it measured people who had competence in certain activities, and then perceived confidence. So how well could they do something, and how well did they think they did. And factor that with IQ. So it was a competency test, an IQ test, and then their input.
Dr. John Jaquish: So it turns out that the dumbest people think they’re the best at everything. And the smartest people underrated themselves and their capabilities, because ultimately the more you know, the more you don’t know. Right? Really smart people, they’re not jumping to conclusions. They’re like, “Well, it could mean this, or it could mean something else.”
Richie Glanzer: I have a saying that everyone has brilliance in something. You have brilliance in something, find your brilliance. And I am pretty good at poker, but I know how many poker players are so much better than me, and just have so much more knowledge. And it’s just like, man. So even when I do well, I’m like, “I could’ve done this, I could’ve done that.” And it’s like I beat myself up a little too much over it. I see what you’re saying about that study, which goes to a good point. The X3, I mean, I saw you use it. But is everyone using it the right way? Or some people just like, rah rah rah-
Dr. John Jaquish: Great question. Yeah, yeah. I don’t know what it is… Well, I mean, I think I just told you. The fitness industry, fitness in general, attracts all people, which includes the lowest common denominator. So there’s a lot of sports that don’t, like scuba diving. If you make a mistake scuba diving because you’re unintelligent, you’re dead. I mean, I wish more people would go scuba diving] between the lines there. So yeah. That’s a sport that has a natural filter to it. You can’t pass the basic tests if you’re unintelligent. So I think when it comes to fitness, there are really no barriers to entry. You can go to a gym for $9 a month, or you can just be an internet expert and you don’t even need to lift weights. You can just tell everybody that you’re right and they’re wrong, on the internet.
Richie Glanzer: Now, have you gotten a lot of trolls on the internet? And if so, how have you handled it? Does it bother you? Do you enjoy it? I see you maybe as a type of guy that would enjoy it.
Dr. John Jaquish: I love them. Yeah. I’ve actually figured out how to turn idiots into money. It’s great.
Richie Glanzer: That’s the win right there.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. Yeah. And the angrier they are, the more attention they get, and the better we do. Out of all the people they bring in, it only takes a couple to read the book , and go, “Well, this guy…” If you actually read the book… I would imagine every negative comment was made by somebody who didn’t even read it. They ordered it, they thumb through it, they saw some stuff about X3, and they’re like, “To hell with this guy. He’s just trying to talk about his product, promote his product, whatever.” First of all, nobody makes money writing books today. I mean, wake up.
Richie Glanzer: It’s tough.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. And also, if you know who I am and you know what I do, you go out and buy my book and shame on you, because I am a promoter of this problem that I invented. And shouldn’t I be?
Richie Glanzer: Yeah.
Dr. John Jaquish: Some people will actually comment on my ads, like, “You son of a bitch. I’m going to find you and kill you. How dare you put this thing in my feed?” And it’s like, it’s a paid ad, complain to Facebook or don’t be on Facebook. Richie Glanzer: Do you know what the Streisand effect is?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yes I do.
Richie Glanzer: So for those that don’t, because it sounds-
Dr. John Jaquish: That’s the only thing that Barbara Streisand has contributed to the world, that I think is of value. Basically, what she did, she made a big deal, she didn’t want anyone to see her ultra-luxurious house. And she made a big deal to the press, “Don’t show any pictures of my ultra-luxurious house.” Because she wants to seem like a neighborhood girl, like, “Oh yeah. Barbara Streisand, she could live down the street from me, and we’d definitely have tea together.” That’s what she wants women to think. She’s ultra-rich. And then it was like, of course, the press did the opposite of what you wanted and put pictures of her home everywhere. And everybody knew she was super-wealthy and you’re right. And then all the stuff she’s ever done, her movies, her music, whatever, became super popular again. So it was obviously her method. So yeah. I mean, if all I have to do is kick a couple of dummies in the crotch, who are not even smart enough to understand basic science anyway, they’re not going to be my customer, but I don’t care.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah. It’s about volume. The more eyes that are on your product, the better, because-
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. And keep in mind, it’s only 20% of the population that’s that stupid. The rest of the people can understand or original research. Okay, so a lot of people are talking about this Dr. Jaquish guy, maybe we should just read the book, check out what he has to say. Of course, anybody that reads a book is like, “This is so obvious. Why did nobody see this before?”
And then also, my points about regular fitness, who are really fit? Who’s really strong? The reason that we are so fascinated by visible abdominal muscles and vascularity like veins, veins showing an extremity like the only reason people are interested is that it’s rare. Everybody should look like me. Every male should look exactly like I do. They should be strong, and they should be lean. And I’m not exceptional or anything like that. I mean, yeah, I do have the body composition and bodyweight of an NFL player, but everybody should look like that.
Richie Glanzer: They should get the best out of their body.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. And you don’t have to go through risk of injury or anything to get there now. And by the way, let me go back to the genetic differences. The biggest genetic difference, like when someone says, “So-and-so has good genetics, and I don’t. That’s why they’re successful and I’m not.” I mean, it’s a truth, but it’s a cop-out. Especially now, because there’s a way around it. So as far as hormonal differences, there’s only one person in the history of blood testing and sports, that actually got kicked out of professional sports because her testosterone was too high naturally. There was nothing she could do to make it lower.
Richie Glanzer: Do you know who that was?
Dr. John Jaquish: Don’t remember her name. I don’t think she broke any records or anything, but it was someone in Africa.
Richie Glanzer: Speaking of women though, is X3 for women?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yes. Plenty of women use it.
Richie Glanzer: Now, can you explained, because I know some women want to look feminine. I heard you say that it helps with that. You’re not going to… And for the record, I am actually a believer of, you look how you want to look, as long as it’s healthy. That’s cool. So for women, tell me about the women that use it, and what they got out of it. Because some don’t want to get that bulky.
Dr. John Jaquish: So it’s a much safer way to train. You’re also training much heavier than you would, but it’s safer. So it’s more benefit, and then less risk. Now, what a lot of women never really get the opportunity to see is, if you want to grow a muscle, you cannot get away from heavy. So they go and lift light and nothing happens. Absolutely nothing. They’re just wasting their time. You got to have a heavy load put on the body. Of course, they don’t want to do that. They don’t want to get injured. And they also, as I keep hearing, they don’t want to look like a man. Now, you have to have the biochemistry of a man and the nutrition of a man, to look like a man. And genetically, you don’t have that biochemistry. So you got nothing to worry about. Now, a lot of the confusion comes from women who take male hormones, and then they start looking more masculine.
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, okay. But that’s not from the weights, that’s from the male hormones they’re taking. I’ve seen women with more muscle mass than the average man. So that didn’t happen by accident. They went through a lot of trouble to get there.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah. I mean, at my gym, I work at a CrossFit gym, and one of my friends has actually made the CrossFit Games, she’s incredible. She lifts, could clean, and jerk 250 pounds. It’s just insane. She still looks pretty. She still looks like a woman. And again, if she didn’t want to, that’s fine. But she actually said to me one time, she goes, “I don’t know if I want to do this, because I don’t want to get too bulky.” Well, yeah, you know she lifts weights when you see her, but you also know she’s still a woman.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. Yeah.
Richie Glanzer: She’s very attractive.
Dr. John Jaquish: I don’t really understand the fear of that necessarily. But I think a lot of women can do the deadlift and the squats because every woman wants to find larger legs, larger butt. And then I think with the deadlift, they’re doing a lot for their legs, but they’re also doing a lot for their back. So they’re going to have great posture. One of the things that make women look older prematurely, is a slumping posture. An exaggerated kyphotic curve is what you’d call it. I mean that it’s like, now you’re talking about having them look younger. So should women do direct arm training? Maybe. And their arms are going to change and get larger, or get more defined because naturally, they store more body fat on their arms.
Richie Glanzer: That’s a personal choice.
Dr. John Jaquish: A lot of women don’t want definition on their arms. So I can say, if you focus on the deadlift, the squats, the calf raises, you may not need to do anything else, but you can grow the musculature there.
Richie Glanzer: So I want to get a couple more things. What people hate about the gym is that first, you have to get to the gym. You have to go through traffic sometimes, you have to go through all this stuff. You got to get your machine. And it takes a long time. You might be an hour at the gym, and it might be another 30 minutes to and from. That’s probably one of the best parts about X3, is it fits. You could go on vacation with it. It’s so small and compact. And it’s what, a 10 or 12-minute workout?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. It becomes a longer workout because you got to catch your breath between sets because it’s so devastating. The more muscular you become, the more out of breath you are because the bigger muscle is going to draw more blood and require more activity from the heart. So that’s part of the myth that strength athletes have bad cardio. No, they don’t. They have great cardio. They just have bigger muscles that draw more blood. They’re just different. That’s the difference. They don’t have bad endurance, and they don’t have… Cardiac health is better with a weightlifter, better or equal, with a weightlifter than it is with a distance runner.
Richie Glanzer: And now, you do this six times a day, for however many minutes a day-
Dr. John Jaquish: Six times a week.
Richie Glanzer: I’m sorry, six times a week. That’s your cardio, right? That’s your cardio for the week, right?
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s my everything. Right. I’m super lean, I’m super strong. I pretty much think I have everything anybody would want out of athleticism. Now, what X3 doesn’t do, and I think a lot of people who are like, they snap to judgment and they don’t really learn about what I’m teaching, they judge a book by its cover, right? Which only stupid people do. It’s okay. I judge them by all their insults to me. So they might snap to judgment, but I’m not saying we should get rid of all other exercise and just have X3. I said you shouldn’t live weight. You want to be stronger, this is the way to get stronger. You to be bigger, this is the way to get bigger. But if we want to get good at a skill, like rock climbing or tennis or golf or swinging a baseball bat or keg tossing, if you’re in a strongman competition, throwing a keg over a wall, you’ve got to practice that skill. You won’t throw a hundred mile an hour fastball, the pitchers aren’t on the bench press all day long to do that, they’re pitching.
Dr. John Jaquish: Because it’s getting the body to fire that much musculature that quickly, turning on more muscle faster is how you throw a fastball. Not even really a strength thing. It is a little bit, but more so it’s what’s called long-term potentiation, meaning getting the body ready for those fast explosive movements. So X3 doesn’t do any of that. It doesn’t do agility work. So when it comes to the NFL players, they ask, “What can I do? What can I not do while I’m doing this?” I say, “Well, don’t lift other weights, but all your agility work, you probably spend more time on your agility work because you’re saving time and energy, while you’re doing your lifting.” So breathe, because you’re so devastated while you do it. Then when you recover from that, go do two hours of agility work.
Richie Glanzer: So X3 is what it is, it’s not what it’s not. I mean, it’ll help-
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think it’s really hard to get that nuance. You really only have a few seconds to capture somebody’s attention in social media marketing. So I’m not going to say what it’s not in an ad.
Richie Glanzer: All publicity is good though. So any exposure they give… And listen, if you’re getting trolls, it means you’re successful. That’s always how I-
Dr. John Jaquish: Oh yeah. Yeah. Nobody trolls losers. They’re upset because I’m succeeding. I read a couple of papers about the mentality of trolls. Turns out they’re just really unhappy with their life. They’re just losers. If you insult somebody you don’t know on the internet, guess what? You’re a loser. You’re jealous. You wish you were more like them. So go ahead.
Richie Glanzer: No, it’s really true. I mean, because I’m on Twitter a lot. That’s where I get my news, I love sports and stuff like that. And I see these athletes, and they have a bad game, and then the fans just go crazy. I’m like, they’re making a million dollars or three, four or five million dollars more than you while you’re doing your 9:00 to 5:00. They’re in great shape. Let’s be honest, their girlfriends are prettier than your girlfriend.
Dr. John Jaquish: Probably not mine.
Richie Glanzer: Not yours. Again, you’re one of those people though, that people are trolling. I just don’t think-
Dr. John Jaquish: Oh yeah. Yeah. I’m sure every time they see my girlfriend, you could fry an egg on their forehead.
Richie Glanzer: The point is though, it’s like, I’m not going to go make fun of the worst baseball player, because I still play. And he’s a million times better than me. And I listen, I wish I was as bad as he was, right?
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. But normal people just either admire or go, “Okay. Well, that guy’s lucky or whatever.” Who throws a tantrum?
Richie Glanzer: One of the things I read, and this was one of my favorite things about a guy who choked in golf, right? He had a bad 18th. He lost the match. Who knows if it was real. This is what I heard. So he comes into the clubhouse and he’s really upset, like, “I choked the game away.” And some guy goes, “No, you didn’t. You didn’t choke.” And now the guy’s feeling better about himself. He goes, “Only good players could choke. And you’re not good. You have to be in a position to be good enough to choke. You’re never going to get at that level.”
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. Right. I like that. You’re right. They have to want to see you fall or whatever. And I’m pleased that most of the trolls, don’t pick up on anything real about the product or about me. They have to lie. So if I had a, whatever, the product were causing cancer or something like that, which is stupid. But I mean, just go with me for a second on this example. They’d love that, but it’s not going to do that. And there’s nothing wrong with it. And it’s better than regular weight training. The whole thing is $550. It’s not only the best home gym you could ever have, it’s the best gym you could ever have. I would choose training with X3 over working out at the Olympic training center because it’s got nothing for me. Everything in there, just be like, “I’m not going to use any of this crap.
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s all worse than X3.” So just use X3. If I was invited to work out there… I’ve been invited to workout at many exclusive gyms like somebody wants to meet with me and they’re in the gym industry and they want to see the X3 . And I’ll demo it in a gym, but they’re like, “Hey, you want to try out this new thing?” I’m like, “No. I’ll tell you 10 reasons why that’s dumb.” And they’re like, “Well, we just bought 200 of these.” I’m like, “Try and return them.”
Richie Glanzer: So if there’s any trolls out here, where would they find the X3, where would they find your book , your Instagram, which has over a million-
Dr. John Jaquish: They can find everything on a landing page I created, so I don’t have to give out 10 different handles, it’s doctorj.com . So D-O-C-T-O-R, the letter J .com.
Richie Glanzer: And Dr. J, Julius Erving, maybe he could get upset over the website.
Dr. John Jaquish: He’s preaching now. He’s done. That’s where I got the website from.
Richie Glanzer: What do you mean by that?
Dr. John Jaquish: I mean, he quit. Yeah. I had to buy the URL. You don’t think that was available.
Richie Glanzer: Okay. That probably cost you a pretty penny then.
Dr. John Jaquish: Sure.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah. So before we go, I actually wanted to, because you’re tough and gruff and stuff like that. But there is a sweet side to you. Your mother, you created a lot of this for your mom, right?
Dr. John Jaquish: Right.
Richie Glanzer: So could you talk to us a little about that?
Dr. John Jaquish: Treating my mother’s osteoporosis, that’s why I created the medical device. And the clinics are called OsteoStrong. So you want to find one? Just OsteoStrong, search nearby, or whatever. Now, the technology puts axial compression on bone. So this is the axis of a bone. And the bone is compressed from end to end. And it then becomes stimulated to grow. So we’re emulating high-impact. The research of the bone density devices drove me to develop X3, because I saw how much more powerful people were in these impact-ready ranges of motion. And it just led me to believe it was, I mean, not even believe, it was just obvious, this evidence was obvious that weightlifting was wrong. Because we’re using the same weight, where we’re damaging our joints. At some point, people get strong enough, where they’re getting potentially more or an equal level of joint damage to growth. And then it just becomes more joint damage-
Richie Glanzer: I’m sorry. Go on.
Dr. John Jaquish:… with regular weight training. So that was very obvious to me when looking at the data from the bone density research. And I’m sitting there going, “Now I got all this data.” And yes, I mean, my mother was the catalyst to everything.
Richie Glanzer: About disuse, you die from disuse of some muscles, right? That’s what you said. And you making it where you use those muscles and you live longer, not just for your mother. So can you just talk a little-
Dr. John Jaquish: The two greatest drivers of long life or high levels of strength, which is muscle size, strength, and muscle size are the same thing. Nobody makes a muscle smaller to get stronger, right? So it’s strength and low body fat, two greatest drivers of long life. And those have never had conflicting evidence towards them. Those are absolutes.
Richie Glanzer: And if you don’t mind me asking, I read this a while ago. So how was your mother? I hope she’s still with us.
Dr. John Jaquish: Oh, yeah. She’s doing great. Yeah. Having dinner with her tonight.
Richie Glanzer: Oh, this must be one of the 48 hours.
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s 24 today. But I’m dry fasting today. So no water.
Richie Glanzer: No water. Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: No food, no water.
Richie Glanzer: Well, I appreciate that. I mean, I got to tell you guys, when you go, you should also find his Instagram because it’s a really inspiring thing. And you look at all the stuff he’s done, and it’s really good. And I actually would tell them, go to YouTube. If you don’t believe it, you just got to look at the YouTube and you’ll see the amount of exhaustion he has, but the extra reps he gets that you just cannot replicate with the barbell. It’s just the truth. And I’m a guy who loves the barbell, but I actually, before we go, I have a friend. There’s this girl on my hockey team, and she’s married. Her husband played for Penn State, a running back. And he’s a monster. He was a local hero at the gym. He squats more than 600, deadlifts more than 400, benches 500. It was insane. But a couple of months ago, he told me he uses band. And I didn’t know who you were at the time.
Richie Glanzer: And then I said when I found out I was interviewing you, I was like, “Hey, is this what you do?” And like, “Yes.” And I was like, “What do you think about it?” He’s like, “I love it. I’ll never go back to the gym ever again.” He goes, “This is just perfect.” And I go to a CrossFit gym, I know some big guys. This is the biggest guy I know.
Dr. John Jaquish: And he switched to X3 .
Richie Glanzer: Switched to X3 .
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. We’re seeing that everywhere. And I’m seeing it with bodybuilders, NFL players. I really like NFL players, because they’re drug tested. So there are no questions. People that aren’t in professional sports, it’s like, “Well, he might be doing this and this and this and this.” And every loser is like, “Oh, everybody who’s bigger than me is on steroids. Everybody who is smaller than me doesn’t train hard.” Putting them as the peak of athletic achievement. I mean, typical idiot thinks. So if you look at these NFL players, they’re big and they’re lean, and they’re drug-free. So it’s time to shut up and stop complaining.
Richie Glanzer: Let me just give you his lift. He squats more than 600, he deadlifted 425 plus. His bench is 420. His name is Phil Cutler. And this guy is like, you look at him, small guy, not tall. And I’m like, “Whoa.” You wouldn’t want to mess with this guy.
Dr. John Jaquish: He’s stupid powerful. Yeah. So also, I like the NFL players because they’re really the strongest guys out there. Powerlifters love saying, “Oh no, powerlifters are much strong than football players.” Oh, really? Well, then why aren’t you in the NFL? Because you’re going to make $500 at a weightlifting meet instead of getting millions of dollars in an NFL contract? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever, I laugh at those guys. I mean, some of them are just better at weightlifting and they wouldn’t be able to play in the NFL. But really if you look at the NFL, strongest guys and they’re drug-free, that’s who we should be looking at. And I love using them as examples, because when they say I put on a whole bunch of muscle after starting X3, and they’re already in the league, that says a lot.
Richie Glanzer: And you the Miami Heat, by the way, they made NBA finals last year.
Dr. John Jaquish: Oh, yeah. And they were a team that wasn’t anywhere near there the year before.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. I mean, the total team on the rise, and the least injuries. Most achieved, least injuries.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah. I mean, I think the product speaks for itself, but you obviously speak very well. And I encourage everyone to follow John’s Instagram, to go on YouTube, watch the video. Before you troll him, I mean, troll him because he likes it, but then watch the YouTube clip.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. Invite your friends to kick and scream too, please.
Richie Glanzer: Yeah. Well, listen, John, thank you so much. I really enjoyed this, and I hope we could do it again sometime.
Dr. John Jaquish: Absolutely. I loved it.
Richie Glanzer: All right, guys. This is Richard Glanzer for Sport ChantInterviews. Thank you very much, and we’ll see you again next time.
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