If you are a fan of health but never have the time to get a work out in OR do
not like working out or this conversation is for you.
Dr. John Jaquish, Biomedical engineer, medical researcher, and inventor, joins
us to share his discovery revolutionizing the fitness industry. Dr Johns
invention awakens HGH Human Growth Hormone naturally, and exponentially faster
than conventional strength training.
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Speaker 1: I have as a guest today, a dear friend and somebody you’re going to
love to hear from. This is Dr. John Jaquish. John is a biomedical engineer. He
is a researcher. He’s an inventor. And he’s one of the truly creative thinkers
in the world of health and vitality today. So John and I have been friends for
several years because I became aware of his work early on. But first of all,
John, welcome to Science for Life. I’m really thrilled to have you here.
Dr. John Jaquish: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Well, in our discussion today, I have spread the word through the
channels of the people around the world that watch this show that we have some
startlingly new information that has come from your research on health and
vitality. So I want to get into that shortly. But before I do, I want to go
backwards just a little bit and tell the story of how your early work as a
student getting your PhD in biomedical engineering, how that early work led to
your discovery. So if you were to talk about your earliest work, how would you
explain what you were doing when you were in school getting your degree?
Dr. John Jaquish: The best part about learning is you don’t know what you’re
doing. It’s just learning. So a lot of my research started before I began the
formal biomedical engineering education and my PhD advisor told me that if I had
decided to do the research that I did after completing my degree, I would have
talked myself out of it. Because there’s quite a bit of traditional education
that teaches you how to think what the process is. It really tends to stifle
creativity. So I had a different approach. I had a different idea when it came
to starting with bone density. When looking at what bone needed, I came up with
something that hadn’t been attempted before and I thought it was the more simple
solution of all the solutions that had been tried. And it also happens to work
better. So I didn’t have any sort of formal path of learning, it was just one
thing after another and I would have an idea and see is there any evidence to
support this idea. And if so, I can maybe run an experiment and go more to the
point of what I’m thinking may work. So it was one thing after another where I
kept on just finding the right evidence. It just kind of appeared in front of
Speaker 1: The right evidence. And I think this is something that I know about
you John, you do think out of the box. And I know this whole show is going to
take us through a journey of thinking outside the box where health and vitality
are concerned. But your early research was about bone density. What led you to
that and where did that come from? Why was that of interest to you?
Dr. John Jaquish: My mother. My mother. So she was diagnosed with osteoporosis
and she was given the statistics about hip fractures. And hip fractures have a
similar mortality rate to breast cancer. So she came home and was very upset and
I thought, “Okay, well let me look into this.” And as I read about the
dysfunction, losing bone mass, osteoporosis, I came to the conclusion that this
shouldn’t even be called a disease at all. It’s a deconditioning of bone. Why
don’t we just recondition it? So instead of chemicals not found in nature or
something like that, bone grows with load on its axis. So this is the axis up my
humorous bone, right? If I compress that bone like this, I can trigger growth.
And we see that through high impact forces. So I wanted to create something that
emulated high impact but was in a controlled environment so we got the benefit
of high impact without any of the risks. And so then that opened some doors and
gave me some evidence when I looked at the differences in capability. That’s
really important. Differences in capability that people have in their impact of
ready range of motion versus their weaker range of motion.
Speaker 1: Okay. I heard you tell this story not too long ago and it fascinated
me. Who has the high bone density in the athletic world?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. One type of athlete stands far above the rest, and
Speaker 1: Gymnasts. And why would that be? Why do they have higher bone
Dr. John Jaquish: It’s the rate at which they hit the ground. They contact the
ground sometimes at 10 times their body weight. Now they injure frequently, it’s
a dangerous sport. But when they don’t injure, because of the rate at which they
hit the ground, the really explosive absorption of force, that triggers bone
growth. So sometimes it’ll have two standard deviations above normal. Whereas
most people who look at bone density, it’s like zero is normal. -1 is osteopenia
and -2.5 is osteoporosis. Most people are only dealing in zero to negatives.
With gymnasts there are + 1 or + 2.
Speaker 1: Okay. I say we got a problem here. We can’t teach your mother to be a
gymnast at, she would probably be 60 years old. So you’re thinking outside the
box. Once you saw what needed to happen, that there needed to be a safe and
effective way of compressing the bone, where did that take you? Why not the drug
avenue? Where did you go to find the solution that changed the world of
Dr. John Jaquish: It just seemed obvious to me when I looked at the gymnasts and
I looked at older people, and it’s typically older people but young people can
get osteoporosis too, somebody with muscular dystrophy or something like that
can’t place any load or go through any impact on the bone. So when I looked at
the scenario, who is susceptible to this? And I understood that. Why don’t we
just compress the bone and emulate high impact forces? And so, what I did
instead of telling my mother to be a gymnast, is I created a device that would
just isolate those positions of naturally absorbing high impact.
Speaker 1: And the technology is called OsteoStrong and it’s now revolutionizing
the world of treating osteoporosis with literally tens of thousands of people
who no longer have the problem because they found this technique.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, it’s just physical medicine. It’s just making the body
Speaker 1: We’re going to come back to this again because this is the key, I
think, to the change that’s happening in the world as you prefer physical
medicine as opposed to drug based medicine. Or what’s your way of expressing
Dr. John Jaquish: I think that every physician takes an oath, the Hippocratic
oath. The first words are do no harm. Very frequently when looking at treatment
options, it’s do the least amount of harm, right? There’s impact or risk in
anything. Even when telling somebody to go out and exercise, they can trip and
fall. And so, there is risk in everything. So what I believe the physician is
trying to do is looking at a strategy where they get the greatest potential
outcome and the least risk of injury or a side effect or any anything negative.
So when I look at what physical medicine has to offer, now there truly has to be
a physical medicine solution. For Parkinson’s disease there’s physical medicine
solutions. If you keep the body moving, there’s plenty of evidence that shows
that you can put Parkinson’s in remission. Friend of mine runs a company that
makes special fitness monitors for Parkinson’s patients. Basically makes them
move around every 45 minutes or something like that. So they keep it going and
then in the end they don’t have the [inaudible 00:09:23]. So when looking at
what physical medicine has to offer, there’s almost no downside. So why not try
physical medicine first? And I make this argument to every physician. And
sometimes the physician says, “Well, we have a drug and it’s been tested with
10,000 people in one study and 5,000 people in another study. And that’s a lot
of evidence. And then we have a physical medicine study, it’s only 55 people
were in that study. So we’re going to go with the one with the larger amount of
evidence.” Well, human physiology has a lot of evidence behind it, period. You
did learn about it in school and so it’s a thing.
Speaker 1: Well it’s clear we’re moving towards physical medicine first and
there’s… We’re in a-
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. My only are argument to any physician is, let’s try the
physical medicine option first. If that doesn’t work, then [inaudible 00:10:26].
Ultimately, if people are kyphotic, very, very hunched over, that is they have
an exaggerated kyphosis, they may not be able to engage in the same way that
that a healthy ambulatory person is with proper posture. So therefore they may
be challenged in some of the physical medicine options. Therefore you may need
to look at other options. But I am always encouraging physical medicine first.
Speaker 1: Well, and as we do that, I want to highlight something I think is
just remarkable and the fact that, through your inventions of OsteoStrong and
the machines that actually bring about that solution to osteoporosis, is
osteoporosis a big deal around the world? How many people does it affect?
Dr. John Jaquish: One in three women, one in five males have a fragility
fracture at some point in their life.
Speaker 1: So what you’re saying, that’s pretty important.
Dr. John Jaquish: So we have to be conscious of other musculoskeletal
dysfunctions. So osteoporosis is metabolic disease of bone. Metabolic disease of
the muscle is type 2 diabetes. They are very closely associated. So a lot of
things that trigger one seem to trigger the other and there’s a lot of
association between the two. So, physical medicine can massively address both of
those things. Nutrition also, [inaudible 00:12:02] too much refined sugar or
[inaudible 00:12:08] too much.
Speaker 1: Bookmark that thought because we’re coming back to that. You just did
something [inaudible 00:12:13] there. But I want to complete one thing and then
Heidi: Can I share one logistical thing? For the attendees, this is interactive
experience and if you have a question that you’re really burning to ask that on
the bottom of your screen you’ll see a Q and A section. And so please post your
questions there, and then we’ll answer the ones that we can get to.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you, Heidi. So, John, after years of developing this
technology and basically solving the puzzle of osteoporosis, I know it hasn’t
been widely integrated into medical practice around the world yet, but we’ve got
years and years of growth. How were you recognized by the establishment as it
were? You were the president, as I understand, of the Osteoporosis Association.
What’s the correct way of saying that?
Dr. John Jaquish: No, I was on the board.
Speaker 1: You were on the board. Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: [inaudible 00:13:22] American Bone Health. That’s the number
one patient education institution worldwide. They cover more patients than
anyone else. And I did that for about three years.
Speaker 1: I’ve got to congratulate you because what you’re doing is outside the
norm of a traditional medicine and yet you’re being recognized because of the
startling effectiveness of what you’re creating. So osteoporosis aside, as big a
problem as that is, there’s something bigger that happened as a result of your
work in research.
Dr. John Jaquish: I think [crosstalk 00:14:03].
Speaker 1: This is just a fascinating… This is where you changed my life in
introducing me to your newest invention a couple months ago. And what research
did you do that led to your development of the product you call
Dr. John Jaquish: So the
came out of, it really came out of a
number of studies I had done and some observations I had done on just looking at
the differences of human capability. When we were doing these osteoporosis
analysis, when I look at the published available research that I had been
working on and publishes and I’m reviewing it and I’m thinking people who we’re
testing, is typically post-menopausal females, were putting, depending on the
published study you look at, between seven and nine multiples of body weight
through their hip joint. So seven, think about your body weight and multiply
that by seven, multiply that by nine. Those are the kinds of loads that people
were dealing with. Comfortably, safely, easily. And that’s what triggered the
bone growth. Well, when I thought about that, I thought, “Wow, when I look at
what athletes do, putting loads through their hip joints, let’s find out what
the difference in capability is.” Because ultimately, I knew The American
College of Sports Medicine, they keep large databases, they publish based on
those large databases, what types of loads do people put through their hip
joints? So I found some statistics that show that the average individual puts 1.
[inaudible 00:05:54] avid exerciser puts 1.3 to 1.53 multiples of body weights
through their hip joint. So, and this is not post-menopausal females, it’s
everybody. Or, or I should say, the population that avidly exercises. So we’ve
got post-menopausal females performing seven times greater with greater force.
Now, albeit different range of motion, albeit different intention of what
they’re trying to do. The take away here is humans, and I mean this is rough
because I’m comparing to two different data sets and not necessarily like
populations, but we have a compromised population that is outperforming, from
just a force perspective, by seven-fold the average of the exercising
population. So, said a different way, we have seven times the capability in our
stronger range of motion and we do the weaker range of motion.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: And so, I thought that was like a real simple breakdown which
would get the light bulb going for people. What-
Speaker 1: No.
Dr. John Jaquish: It means a lot to the typical scientist but I think [inaudible
00:17:21] to regular people. But ultimately, but here’s what’s so exciting, what
really means is when we exercise through traditional means, no wonder people are
getting such poor results. Because they’re not able to use their capability.
We’re limited by the weaker range of motion. So when I’m doing the pushup or
something, or holding a weight close to here, I actually have seven times the
force production capability in the stronger range of motion. But no one ever
uses that amount of force. So I realized that we needed to create something
because we have variance in capability depending on where the joint is. We need
to come up with a system that has variance in force. So, in a way, it’s like
tricking your body into lifting heavy where you would never really want to lift
heavy. So it only gets heavy where your capability is much greater and then it
gets really light where the joint’s compromised. Back here I’m pushing away from
myself, I’m holding the bar, and then back here my shoulder joint is at risk,
but I’m holding a very lightweight here, so it’s very safe. [inaudible 00:18:36]
as I push away.
Speaker 1: Let’s turn this into information for somebody who doesn’t lift
weights and somebody who isn’t particularly fit but wants to understand how
powerful this information is. What you were just saying is that if I were
lifting something here, this is my weakest point.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right.
Speaker 1: But as I move away from myself lifting it, I get stronger and
stronger as I go. Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: With the mechanical advantage and engagement, muscle is
shorter, the muscle becomes, the more sarcomere engagement. So there’s like
little proteins in the cell look like this. As the cell becomes shorter, they do
Speaker 1: Okay. So I’m going to try to put two pieces together here and tell me
how wrong I am or how correct. You’ve talked a minute ago about building muscle
having impact in the disease model or in the health model, and I haven’t spent
my life in a gym and it shows. I’m not built like a weight lifter. And yet I
find that as I found an easy system for building muscle, it’s affecting my
health in profound ways I didn’t understand. How-?
Dr. John Jaquish: Every organ in your body exists to supply muscle with what it
needs. So there’s a symbiotic relationship there. The healthier muscle is, the
more it’s putting demand on those organs, the better they have to perform. Which
is going to make you feel better, have more energy, make you happier.
Speaker 1: Okay. And the listeners in this show clearly are not those most
likely to leave this show and go join a gym as a result of the information
Dr. John Jaquish: Right.
Speaker 1: You’ve put up a picture. Is this something you wanted to show us?
Heidi: Yeah, yeah. I would love for everyone to see what it actually looks like.
This is what they’re talking about and it will continue to be visible to
everyone as I’m talking. So, you see where you are seven times stronger at that
Speaker 1: Right.
Dr. John Jaquish: Okay.
Heidi: This is what they’re talking about. And with how the resistance band
looks and how the barbell is set up. And I think it’d be really awesome, John,
for you next to talk about why it’s set up the way that it is and how the design
of the Olympic bar functions.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right? So you’ve got a lot of people who don’t lift weights
don’t know what an Olympic bar is. But it’s a very important tool that
weightlifters use. And what it is is you can grab a hold of the bar and rotate
your hand and keep a grip on the bar and the weight can stay static. So there’s
ball bearings inside. So what you see in this video is the user is moving his
wrist, and there’s some torsion there, but he’s allowed to freely move it and
never compromise his grip.
Speaker 1: And you’re also seeing that as the band stretches, it’s as if the
weight is getting heavier. So, as he reaches out, he’s actually activating
muscles that wouldn’t be activated if the weight weren’t variable or if the
force weren’t variable.
Heidi: Exactly. So, and where he is lifting right now, he’s lifting more than
what he’s capable with the standard barbell and plates in a gym. He is chest
pressing way more like hundreds of pounds more force than he is normally capable
of. But as you can see, it’s pretty tiring.
Dr. John Jaquish: Cool. Thanks for sharing that Heidi. I think we’re trying to
make it a little more visible. So that was so similar to what we’re doing with
the osteoporosis treatment devices. This is a way where individuals can get a
far increased level of progress. So, a lot of people go to the gym and what
happens, especially adults, they end up not lifting very heavy because they
don’t want to get hurt. Unfortunately, and from a standard fitness perspective,
not heavy means not anything really is going to happen. Your muscle change is
based on an extreme environment and that’s true of all adaptive responses. Sort
of like, you can go outside on a sunny day in December and you’re not going to
get a tan, and on the 4th of July, few minutes outside you’re going to stimulate
something in your skin. So, it’s just intensity of exposure. So heavy is great,
but we don’t want to injure. So while maybe 17, 18-year-old kids will lift heavy
weights and not really think about the consequences because they imagine they’ll
never be hurt, they wend up getting eventually and then they learn and they
start training lighter, but then that’s not effective. So this enables us to
still get the benefit of the heavy loading without any of the risks.
Speaker 1: Okay. I noticed we have a question coming in. I want to get to that
and I want to set it up a little bit before. Thank you, listeners, for asking
your questions because this is really important information. I want to make sure
we all get to the information. But John, you’ve talked again about the muscles,
and I have walked. I used to be a runner at 70-something. I don’t run so much
anymore, but I walk. So I’ve used that as my fitness. But I was stunned at the
difference I started feeling in my body when I started building muscle using
invention. I mean it was stunning. I don’t have words
for it yet, but why was I feeling that difference? What’s going on
physiologically that made me realize that something was changing inside?
Dr. John Jaquish: Well you put your musculoskeletal system in an extreme
environment and it had to change. More extreme than you would ever be able to
expose it to than going to the gym as the weights were heavier, you were going
through fatigue and stronger ranges of motion. That created many changes. So
it’s changes in the musculature. It’s because muscle changes. Muscle is an
engine that’s running at all times, it’s always using calories. So, you’re
Speaker 1: Okay. I am getting leaner and that’s something that’s [inaudible
00:25:43], but why am I getting…? What’s the body’s response to building using
Dr. John Jaquish: Two reasons. One is you’re building lean muscle. That doesn’t
mean particularly giant muscle because I know women are concerned about that.
But when you build an amount of muscle mass, your basal metabolic rate changes.
Meaning you’re using more calories just by existing. Just by breathing, sleeping
you’re using them. But the other one, which is why when designing the
I wanted to mimic a lot of what are called Olympic lifts or
power lifting, just lifting a bar and then having the attachment pulley between
the bar, and the attachment point being on your person or on the ground because
you can attach the band to the ground. It’s thick layered latex, so it’s not
that petroleum rubber stuff. This is this tree latex, really powerful latex. So
when you move those things through space, you’re having to fire stabilizers,
because you have to stabilize anything that’s not amounted. So if I pick up a
heavy [inaudible 00:27:12] some stability firing to keep from tipping or
[inaudible 00:27:21]. Now the heavier this becomes, the more stabilization
firing is required to keep it level. So, as the weight climbs, when an
individual gets into the stronger range of motion, more stabilization firing
happens. And last summer, Henry Alkire and I published a… I said he’s a young
researcher. Great guy, brilliant. We published a study where we aggregated 23
different datasets looking at stabilization firing and found that stabilization
firing plus load yields a tremendous amount of growth hormone trigger. Now
growth hormone, when you’re a child, grows you. When you’re an adult, it’s
really more like human repair hormone. It fixes lots and lots of stuff. It makes
your skin tighter and younger. It’s a primary driver and reduction of cellulite.
Also hamstring development, we’ll talk about that later. But the incredible
performance changes that are seen from this. And so there was data in this study
that showed people increasing growth hormone after one of these stabilization
[inaudible 00:28:45] sessions of over 2000%. So that’s going to be massive
changes to physiology.
Speaker 1: So, what you’re telling me is that this is what’s happened in my body
is the less than 10 minutes of work I do, honestly three or four days a week is
all I do, but that has triggered a change in my physiology because of the
dramatic increase in growth hormone.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right.
Speaker 1: Okay. And I can just report, from my own disbelief, that over an inch
in my waist, a growing of chest muscles for the first time in my life and having
a little added musculature in my arms, those are are not minor changes. Those
are actually life-changing. And we’re talking about six or seven weeks of very
easy to perform exercises.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. And you’re safe. You don’t need a spotter, you don’t
need to worry about, “Am I going to hurt myself?” The repetitions are higher so
you don’t necessarily have to worry about, “Well, I got to lift this really
heavy thing like four of five, whatever 10 [inaudible 00:30:16]”. The object is
to get to a point of exhaustion, but exhaustion in a second.
Heidi: Yeah, I’d be happy to share my transformation here. And this is eight
weeks of following your 12 week protocol, John. And this is amazing. My posture
is way better. My shoulder caps are starting to go up. My partners said “You’re
getting a butt lift. Just by following your protocol.” And there’s new
definition where… I’m not sucking in my tummy. This is just standard relaxed
where you can see my abs now where you couldn’t eight weeks ago. That’s what
growth hormone looks like.
Dr. John Jaquish: I like the way you’re tracking your progress. It’s important
to notice things like that. And also I’m not necessarily the best to use myself
as an example, especially when we’re talking to women because women think,
“Well, I don’t want to look like that guy.” So I want to thank you for putting
that together. Many women have told me they’re afraid to grow muscle. But then
they want to look like Kim Kardashians and I tell them, “Well, that’s muscle.
You can grow that muscle and, yeah, you can have an incredible feminine shape by
developing the glutes…” The cellulite on the back of the legs, this one of the
most interesting subjects because I see women who exercise, whether they
exercise a lot or a little, but they get a little bit of quadricep development,
that’s the front of the thigh. So they build the front of the thigh, but not the
back of the thigh where the hamstring is and that’s where they see the
cellulite. So they’re working hard on the muscle that’s on the front of the
thigh, but they’re complaining about the back of the thigh, but they’re not
working out. Because a lot of them don’t know how. With the extra protocol, we
have them doing split squats in what’s called a dead lift. It’s an Olympic
movement. It’s not going to kill you. Some people are a little put off on the
name deadlift, but it means you’re picking up a dead weight off the ground. So
that engages the hamstrings in and so when the muscle in the back of the thigh
starts to grow a little bit, well the cellulose begins to disappear. Because the
cellulite’s here and the muscle’s here. As the muscle begins to push out, the
skin stretches and it’s all in the right proportion.
Speaker 1: [inaudible 00:33:03] for you to show us the… There you go. You want
to play that again?
Heidi: Yeah, I’ll play it. Yeah, it’s visible when I’m talking. So yeah, that’s
a deadlift. Super simple. You’re just standing up. You do need to have good
mechanics with your chest and in your head and neck so you don’t kink your neck,
you don’t put anything out in your reck. And I teach that in the three week
program. After someone purchases it, the
, I share with them
proper mechanics and safety training so that the X3 Bar
simple and easy to use.
Speaker 1: That’s awesome. And Heidi, would you do some looking and see if you
can find the overhead press example because I want to use that as my aha moment.
Speaker 1: Because, John, you just said something so powerful. I want to make
sure everybody gets it. And that is that the huge growth hormone increase comes
from firing stabilization muscles.
Dr. John Jaquish: Stabilization plus load.
Speaker 1: Okay. So stabilization, if I did yoga I would trigger my
stabilization muscles. Right?
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. A lot of exercise experts, exercise scientists have not
been fans of yoga for anything other than flexibility. But then a lot of yoga
fans, yoga instructors notice it. They don’t do as much cardiovascular exercise
as others do or they don’t do the same types of things to stay lean, yet they
still stay lean because there’s a lot of stabilization firing. So you have
hormones working for you when you do yoga.
Speaker 1: And what you just said, I want everybody to hear. You said it’s
firing stabilization muscles but you get this huge increase in growth hormone
when stabilization muscles are fired under load. So what we have to do is to
figure out how. And I did this particular exercise when we met up several weeks
ago and I did this one exercise and all of a sudden light bulb went off in my
head and I realized… Heidi, would you play the video so everybody can see what
Heidi: Yeah, yeah. Happy to. Yeah, so this is an overhead press and this is my
heavyweight for me. So yeah, getting the camera straight, and this is where it’s
like, this is not exactly easy but this is what requires a lot of stabilization.
And you will see in a second, there we go, my core muscles shaking as I’m going
in an overhead press. You see that?
Speaker 1: Stop it right there, for just a second.
Heidi: Yeah, I’ll go back right there.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Now when I was in that position and I had the band, there
was, I don’t know how much weight it felt like, but it felt like it was a lot of
weight. My core muscles were on fire firing and that’s when I finally understood
why this trims the body, why it has the effect it does, is because I was
challenged. Although it looked like a rubber band and something simple, I was
more challenged in that one motion than I had been in my 70-some years. I had
never, not being a weightlifter, I had never been in that position before. I had
never triggered those core muscles and… Thank you Heidi, I hope people can
understand it. If you just imagine yourself with a hundred pound weight over
your head and all the muscles that have to stabilize in order to hold you
Heidi: I kind of question that because I did have hundred pound weights over my
head. I did CrossFit for three and a half years, Doug. And that sucks. When I
was with a heavy barbell and I’m doing snatches or overhead press, it was super
heavy. But when I am pressing this, and this is over a hundred pounds of force
with the equivalent of the band, it’s not that hard and it was shocking. To me
it was like [crosstalk 00:37:40]
Dr. John Jaquish: Do you want me to tell you why this is more effective?
Speaker 1: Please do. Please do.
Dr. John Jaquish: Because you can get to the fatigue points where you’re holding
a higher weight many more times and you can sustain that position for longer.
Therefore more stability firing. Let’s say you can lift a hundred pound barbell
from the ground to over your head. What that really means is you probably have a
300 pound capability but you don’t know that and you can’t get there. So one
thing you could do, this is not what I would recommend, but you could use the
and a heavier band and get to 300 pounds in peak range
motion. You don’t need to do that. What you can do is get the hundred pound band
and go to a far deeper level of exhaustion by hitting that top point bolt over
and over and over again. So you’re going to fatigue there. And then you can
diminish that range of motion and go to fatigue at the other, where you’re
weaker. So you end up just doing this where you’re dealing with a light weight
and fatiguing the muscle completely. And that’s something you just can’t do with
Speaker 1: I get it. You can’t do it. What I do on a three or four day a week
basis, I couldn’t do with weights. I wouldn’t want to do his weights. But it is
transformative. And what you’re saying is it the best way in your research, or
that you’ve found, for dramatically increasing growth hormone in the body. So,
and I get that this is going to continue to build stronger muscles, but what are
the other benefits of having the growth hormone influx in my body?
Dr. John Jaquish: Joint recovery. Skin recovery. Growth hormone tends to make
people, it’s seen as the anti-aging, when it’s prescribed as a drug, the
anti-aging drug. The good news is when prescribed as a drug there’s questions
like is it really safe? No one’s ever proven that it’s not safe, but that’s not
how studies work. They don’t do a study to see if they can hurt somebody. So. I
mean, we’ll never have that research, but there’s a lot of concerns because
there’s receptor sites for growth hormone in every cell of the body. However,
when the body is placed in an extreme environment, the receptory sites
upregulates while the hormone is being secreted. So the hormone level goes up
and so there’s more hormones coming in and there’s more receptive so they can
find each other. So in the tendons, the ligaments to improve biomechanics, the
skin, all of those things that are going to make people have more energy, repair
faster, things like that.
Speaker 1: All right, John, I realize you have done something that’s just like
solving the puzzle of osteoporosis. Seems to me that you backed into something
that’s truly revolutionary in our understanding of fitness or understanding of
health because, and I don’t know what age it happens, probably in the thirties
or forties, our growth hormone production is diminished because we typically
diminish our physical…
Dr. John Jaquish: You don’t place [inaudible 00:41:26] in the same environments.
Now in that study, then that analysis, which was published last summer, those
effects we’re seeing with elderly people too. Yeah.
Heidi: John, can you? We have a question here about if the person is 85 years
old, is this recommended? Please share how old is the age of your mother.
Dr. John Jaquish: She may be me mad at me I do that.
Speaker 1: Is she in that range of age that-?
Dr. John Jaquish: [inaudible 00:42:00] years old. Yeah. People can use it with
proficiency no matter their age. It’s relatively pain-free, relatively
ambulatory. The requirements are pretty low and the good news is your movement
can improve as you use the device.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have experienced there with a neighbor nearby who saw my
enthusiasm for this new toy and has found a spark of regeneration in his life
and is just beginning his journey with the
and is quite
excited about it. And Heidi, have we missed any of the questions that are coming
in? Are we doing good? Okay. So John, what you’ve told us so far is there’s a
dramatic increase in growth hormone and that has profound effects beyond
building muscles. That actually has vitalizing effects, and I won’t go into
deeper, but that there’s a whole part of the anti-aging medicine that’s built on
injections of growth hormone. What you’re talking about though is endogenous.
This is a growth hormone from your own body created with your own glands. What
are the advantages there?
Dr. John Jaquish: Well, when your body creates it, your body’s not going to
create a hormonal secretion that’s going to hurt you. There’s really no… The
body’s self preserving. It’s not self destructive. And when growth hormone is up
regulated, you can be assured that the receptor sites in the proper places are
going to be upregulated as well. So the growth hormone goes where it’s supposed
Speaker 1: Is there any indication in the literature that an injection of growth
hormone suppresses our body’s own natural production of growth hormone? Am I
Dr. John Jaquish: There’s conflicting reasoning on this. I just can’t give you a
really conclusive answer. Now like certain other hormones like estrogen and
testosterone, you take exogenous testosterone or estrogen and you suppress your
own [inaudible 00:44:39]. But I’m probably going to ruin somebody’s day here,
but there’s a lot of things that you do, that people do that screw up the
natural secretion of things. Let me give you an example. If you use chap stick a
lot, you don’t have the natural oils in the skin and your lips anymore. You
[inaudible 00:45:03] but your skin is self-lubricating. So if you put some type
of lubricant there, well then that piece of skin doesn’t see a reason to trigger
that anymore. That’s a perfect example of what you’re talking about. What we
want to do is if you have dry skin, well I tell somebody who is, “I have dry
skin all the time.” “Well, have you tried eating more fat? Have you looked at
different things or maybe you’re having dry skin because you use a lousy shaving
cream.” There’s a lot of different other approaches and we could be really
funny. So we want to lubricate our skin after we put a solvent on our skin to
destroy all the natural oils. Then we take a petroleum oil and put it on our
skin. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: Or does it make sense? It makes nonsense. That’s another
rabbit hole we could go now. But ultimately, you want to trigger your body to do
what it’s supposed to do. That’s the ultimate.
Speaker 1: Okay. And you’re telling me that my resistance through all of my
years to doing physical exercise where muscle building was concerned, was
restricting my own production of my health.
Dr. John Jaquish: Absolutely. Everybody should be as strong as they can be. It
should just be on everyone’s to do list. Like you want to get a good night’s
sleep every night. That’s something you want to do. You want to be as strong as
Speaker 1: And so your research is, I can’t help but say this is wildly
profound, that less than 10 minutes a day can actually have this kind of impact
on your overall health. And I’ll speak about this for as long as I have breath
because we’re in a world that is time for us to take responsibility for our
health and realize that it’s in our hands to take the wise steps. I changed my
diet years back. I’ve changed, stopped smoking. I did all kinds of changes, but
the idea has never presented itself that I need to build muscle in order to be
strong. I also put on our website, our Facebook page a couple of days ago, an
article that said, your brain shrinks if you’re not getting physical exercise.
Wait a minute.
Dr. John Jaquish: [inaudible 00:48:03] Bruce Liptopn likes using the car analogy
when we’re talking about the human body. Can you still hear me?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Dr. John Jaquish: You lose me? Or are we okay? So Bruce talks about how you can
take a car apart and put it back together and drive it away. But if you take a
human apart and put them back together, nothing happens. The individual is no
longer alive. And why that’s important is that every system that we have in our
body is dependent on other systems. They’re all related. So the musculature and
the brain are related. The heart, the lungs, the blood flow to your fingertips
and your toes, the furthest points away from your heart, it’s all related. And
if we treat it as such, you only have one body. And it’s a thing that people say
but don’t really pay attention to, “Well, I have my health.” Well, make sure you
keep it. So these things are the most important things we can do right now. For
happiness, moving forward. Taking care of your health, being as strong as
Speaker 1: Well, we’re going to be carrying this message out to the world
because taking care of your health used to be more complicated. And today it’s
getting easier. And I think that’s true across the board of things that it’s
important to understand right now. It’s easier to step into a vital, active,
loving life. We just have to use the technology that’s coming and I appreciate
you being the channel for this kind of information, John.
Dr. John Jaquish: Thanks.
Speaker 1: I also want to talk too about, you realize I’m not a fitness advocate
and this is… I hope my discomfort in this area shows a little bit to everybody
because it’s just not an area of my focus in life. I thought that my life
between my ears was what… The body was just to carry my head around. The fact
is that the body has a vital purpose. But you’re from a different world than I
am. You’ve been a bodybuilder for most of your life. What do other bodybuilders
say? They’re invested in their weights and all this kind of stuff. What did they
have to say about your creation of the
Dr. John Jaquish: Great question. I’m definitely getting a mixed response. A lot
of, as with any sport, let’s call it recreational weightlifting because I think
the term bodybuilding, there are people who treat their body as a sculpture and
then they go stand on a stage. That’s what a bodybuilder is. There’s a lot more
people that follow the sort of aspects of that to improve their physique and
their health and aren’t necessarily going to go stand on a stage and are not
necessarily treating their body as a sculpture. They just want to be strong. And
there’s millions of people like that. The competitive bodybuilder, not so much.
They’re definitely a much higher level of what they’re trying to do. So that
community has, I’ve got some mixed responses on it. I don’t want to beat up on
anybody, but the smarter people in the industry, Ben Pakulski has been working
with OsteoStrong for example. A couple of others that I’m working with, I’m not
quite ready to talk very much about yet. Phil Hernon is an amazing guy, former
Mr USA. Has a nutrition company now and he really helps people get the most out
of the human body without turning to any sort of performance enhancing drugs.
Train the body to fix itself. Very, very much thinking along the same lines.
What I noticed is that the most receptive audience is not the young guys who are
lifting weights and who want to go win a bodybuilding championship and plan on
having the best physique at the barbecue. That’s the thing, when you’re younger,
people really start to pay attention after they have one injury. Because the 18,
19 year old guys who start lifting heavy and they think, “Oh, I’ll never get
hurt. Because I’m awesome.” That’s youth, right? I don’t remember who said it
but the problem with youth is it’s wasted on young. Somebody said that. Maybe it
was Winston Churchill. So those guys are not paying attention. I think part of
it is that they identify with doing something dangerous. They’re proud that
lifting heavy weights is not something everybody can do. And they’re very proud.
That’s their identity. So taking their identity away from them by saying, “Hey,
there’s a way I can grow more muscle and go through less risk and accomplish the
same objectives.” I’ve never seen strings of profanity attached together like by
these guys, because it’s just like offending their lifestyle. But the guys who
had an injury and they know, “Wow, if I get a serious injury, I won’t even be
able to exercise.” Right? And so risking an injury is just not something they’re
interested in doing. So when we talk about how with
have even better success than you can with standard weights and you lower that
chance of injury, they are listening.
Speaker 1: Well, I want everybody to hear me clearly. Please go to
and look for yourself at what’s here as a, as a tool for
your health. Because there’s something vital and when new science comes in that
tells us there’s an easy way, a safe way, and an incredibly powerful way, quick
way, to rebuild the vitality that age is taking away from us. It just makes
sense to arm yourself with the facts. But I also want you to know that there is
wisdom here that you can carry forward. Whether you join the X3 Bar
revolution or not, there’s wisdom here and understanding that you’re building
your physical body strength is vital to your longevity, your health, and your
production of human repair hormone in your body. So John, I’m just blown away by
what you’re doing. You just talked about Ben Pakulski and I had the privilege of
listening to a podcast you did just a few a weeks ago. Or what was the gentleman
that you did that call with?
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, that was Ben.
Speaker 1: Okay. That was Ben.
Dr. John Jaquish: He likes science. So he’s a competitive bodybuilder and he
just retired, but I think he may have been competing for something like 16 or 20
years. And he was a contest weight right around 300 pounds. Muscular guy and you
can see every muscle, very lean. So while he was in a sport, he realized that
understanding the scientific research, the sports science research around
athleticism triggering muscle growth hormones, was much better than just
repetitively going to the gym and doing what all the other guys are doing. A
better understanding. And one thing that’s important, and this is just general
advice for anybody, don’t look at what a celebrity is doing or what an athlete
is doing. Because they may be doing 20 things and only talking about one. When a
study is done, variables are taken out of it. So they’ll take two groups of
individuals like compare them and they’ll make sure that those individuals are
not taking performance enhancing drugs, have a similar diet, are similar enough
where when something is added over here to test, and something’s over here to
test, that we’re just isolating that variable. And so I think Ben is one of the
individuals who really understands what the objectives are with academic
research. Isolating variables, finding out why something really happens. And the
guys who are not interested in research and just are interested in what the pros
are doing, they don’t even really know what the pros are doing. They know what
the pros are saying.
Speaker 1: Right. What is the research that actually was done in upstate New
York? Can you tell me the name of the university and the…?
Dr. John Jaquish: Male athletes. Yeah. So Cornell athletes were tested. They
took two groups of Cornell athletes, so males and females. But the reason it’s
important to point that out is they were already highly trained, so it’s harder
to get a result, a pre to post result, with somebody who’s already athletic.
Someone who doesn’t exercise, they’re going to have much greater adaptations.
They’re going to gain lean muscle and lose body fat faster than someone who’s
already an athlete. I point that out because I want people to understand that if
it can work for an athlete, it can work for the regular person even better. Not
the other way around. Because I think somebody goes, “Well, that study was on
athletes and I’m not an athlete, so it doesn’t mean anything.” So they took two
groups of people and they tested them, their strength, in the beginning of the
study. And then they tested their strength at the end of study. One group lifted
regular weights as they had been and they gained a tiny bit of strength through
this, I think it was 24 weeks. The test group used variable resistance. A
protocol very similar to
. They were holding much more force
in the stronger range of motion than they were in the weaker range of motion.
They grew muscle. They grew muscle. The test was strength, but a stronger muscle
is a larger muscle so they developed three times the amount of gain that the
regular group did. Which is why the product is called X3 Bar
Speaker 1: That’s great.
Dr. John Jaquish: Your gains are three times faster.
Speaker 1: John, I can’t believe the time is getting away from us so fast, but
there’s a couple of things. Dave Asprey of Bulletproof Coffee fame recently
called this one of the best bio-hacks ever and I know he is sharing this
technology. I’ve seen his podcasts a couple of times now where he’s… Who are
some of the others that are in your world who have seen and understood this
technology and encouraged you?
Dr. John Jaquish: Tony Robbins has been working with OsteoStrong. He’s also a
big fan of
and the X3 Bar
s are going to be
available at OsteoStrong locations to use and for people to understand how it
works. With OsteoStrong addressing bone density and increasing bone density for
athletic performance, for fracture prevention or just greater health, and then
from an added health and aesthetics standpoint, X3 Bar
[inaudible 01:01:02]. Tony been very excited about getting that rolling
Speaker 1: Heidi, I know the chat box is kind of swelling. Is there something
there that we need to address with John? Something that will be helpful to the
Heidi: I think most of those questions have been answered already. We just have
one person who is an avid fan of
. I’ve been training him and
his whole body shape and posture are changing in a matter of only six and a half
weeks. It’s been beautiful.
Speaker 1: Somebody besides me, right?
Speaker 1: Well, that’s great. Well, John, this is the beginning of a process. I
am so thrilled that you take your time to come and share it with the world. But,
more importantly, I hope you recognize that what you’re doing is profound beyond
words. You are bringing forward a level of understanding of how easy it is to
build healthy bodies that actually makes our lives more valuable. And I really
congratulate you for the work that you started with and I’m sure this is not the
end. This is a continuing the process, but
is, I’m going to
call it a revolution because it’s going to revolutionize the way we deal with
fitness and the way we deal with our own personal health. Any point that we’ve
missed in our conversation that is vital for our listeners to hear about today.
Dr. John Jaquish: No, no. I look forward to helping to answer the questions over
the coming days and weeks.
Speaker 1: Well, I wish you incredible success and I’m thrilled to be a part of
the revolution. And whether I look at it personally or look at it as what fuels
my life is giving people information that will allow them to live the fullness
of the beautiful lives that we have here. Heidi, did you have anything you’d
like to add? Thank you for being the moderator and a guide through this process.
Heidi: I’m just so grateful for your John. Like really from the depth of my
heart, you have changed my relationship with my body that I didn’t think was
possible. Because I was a student athlete, I was super fit. But then after
getting injured so many times I was like, “Well I guess I lost my dream body.”
And it’s coming back. So thank you. Thank you. And the last part would be like,
I would be honored to be there with you on the call as you change the shape of
your body, sculpt your body and celebrate with you your progress. So, though my
body isn’t perfect and I’m showing before and after version of myself and that’s
really vulnerable, like wow, but I’m just celebrating the changes that have
happened and it’s only a short few eight weeks.
Speaker 1: Awesome. That’s great.
Heidi: That’s how it works.
Speaker 1: It’s exciting to be back in the and the science for life world and
the new format we’re using, I’m thrilled with. We are going to send to everybody
who’s registered for this show a copy. I ask you to please send it out to your
friends. And the revolution happens because you and I are the source of that
information. We move it forward. And as we bring other guests into onto the
show, I hope you’ll continue to do the same thing and be the community of change
that we’ve always been. Know that you’re, John, you’re genuinely appreciated and
loved. Heidi, thank you. And for all of you listening to the Science for Life,
we have an exciting journey ahead of us and I’m thrilled to be with you. I hope
you’ll join us again on the next show with Science for Life.