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Dr. John Jaquish: So Phil and I are here talking about safety, and the different
exercise programming that we’re doing. We’re looking at some of the comments
that you guys are leaving. The comments really have a lot to do with concerns
that we’re not encouraging heavy lifting anymore, and that’s not the case.
Dr. John Jaquish: So what we’re doing is looking at better strategies to get
heavy loads through the body. Then at the same time, adding the stability
component so you’re opening receptors for growth hormone and you’re secreting
growth hormones, and you’re not only just putting it in the bloodstream, but
you’re giving it a place to go, which doesn’t happen when you take growth
hormones through a needle.
Phil Hernon: I had an old school pro say, “If I saw you on that Bosu ball, I’ll
kick the Bosu ball out from under you, and tell you to go squat.”
Dr. John Jaquish: Right.
Phil Hernon: Well, it [inaudible 00:00:58] feelings because, first of all, he’s
not open to the new science. That can evolve. This is harder than squatting. I
would rather squat. But like we said, heavy is a relative term. When I do these
one-legged squats, John, it’s frigging heavy.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right.
Phil Hernon: I do one-legged stuff I get [inaudible 00:01:19]. It’s heavy. It
hurts. When I do four or five of the squat rack, I remember days being light. So
it’s a relative term. When we say heavy, we really mean stimulus. You know what
I mean?
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. You need to show-
Phil Hernon: I’m not discouraging heavy training. I’m encouraging heavy
training.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right.
Phil Hernon: Even heavier, heavier training.
Dr. John Jaquish: We got to show the central nervous system that there’s a
deficit in the amount of power. Like it’s got to see crystal clear like, “Oh, we
need more muscle here.” Think about why do most advanced power-lifters and
bodybuilders use constant tension. They don’t ever lock the joint. They don’t
ever stand all the way up when they’re in the squat rack because you’re shutting
the muscle off. So if the stimulus is turning the muscle on, turning it off,
turning it on, turning off. The central nervous system’s going-
Phil Hernon: That fucking rep pause stuff is so much BS.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right, right. Like you… Getting the central nervous system
in a position where it’s going, “I don’t know what the hell you’re trying to
do,” that means you’re not going to grow.
Phil Hernon: Yeah.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah.
Phil Hernon: Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: So the constant tension, the single leg squats are awesome.
I’m actually like in the XO … We’re talking about heavy loads on the body are
still good. You know, obviously they build the most muscular size, but we’re
also talking about the stability that’s going to keep people lean.
Phil Hernon: So a combination of both.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. Right. The combination of both in like-
Phil Hernon: But a lot less of the heavy lifting.
Dr. John Jaquish: Well heavies relative. We want to get people in a place where
like we were talking about the shoulder joint earlier today. Like in a bench
press back here is where a shoulder joint is exposed. But you know, as I’m going
through the range of motion, when my chest is right here, when my humerus is
close to my sternum that’s where this muscle is powerful.
Phil Hernon: Yes. It’s the strongest. That’s your strongest.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right. And I did a video with some measurement devices with
the chest press for the X3
. So when I’m pushing away from myself,
when I’m at full extension, I’m dealing with 350 pounds. But I would never have
350 pounds back here.
Phil Hernon: But guys do.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right, right. They do. And there’s a lot of exposure to the
joint for damage. So what we’re really doing is we’re varying the resistance so
I can train super heavy. I mean I’m 40 years old, I’m not going to get under
heavy bench press bars anymore. But I can expose myself to incredible amounts of
force where the muscle is more powerful, and then diminished force where the
joint is at risk.
Dr. John Jaquish: So I’m still stimulating incredible growth. And that’s what
the research shows. And I just redid the science section. Actually Henry Alkire,
he did an amazing job on the X3
website to talk about the amount of
muscle that is involved when you vary the resistance and why taking the muscle
with fatigue there is so powerful. And then you add in the stability component,
then you’re opening up the receptors for growth hormone and triggering a growth
hormone release. So that the growth hormone knows where to go and that’s where
you’re getting these incredible results.
Phil Hernon: Okay. So this X3
is just a compilation of all your
research over the years plus the instant stability.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right, right. I mean like the stability, we can do stability
training and you can just do air squats on one leg and you’re doing heavy
loading and you’re getting a little bit of that. But we want to give the
benefits of very heavy lifting, but without the risks. And like I said, the
product seems to be really popular with guys like-
Phil Hernon: 45.
Dr. John Jaquish: …40 plus because, well, there’s some psychological research
that says people don’t realize their own mortality until they’re over… Sorry.
Until they’re over 40 years old. So it makes perfect sense, right? Like, yeah,
young guys don’t ever think they’re going to get hurt, but you’re over 40 and
it’s like, “Hey, do you worry about hurting your back when you dead lift?” And
they’re like, “Yeah, I do.”
Phil Hernon: Well, you don’t see very many guys, 45 year olds speeding around.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right.
Phil Hernon: Texting like young guys or girls do.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Phil Hernon: It’s a good point.
Dr. John Jaquish: So there’s just a mentality and it’s keeping in mind the fact
that you can get hurt. So you decide, okay, instead I’m going to use as much
safer method of training. So like still training heavy, but training heavy is
relative.
Phil Hernon: But one thing that shocks people is, shocked me is, it’s not easier
John. It’s actually harder. This training with this X3
is
actually… I’d rather lift weights because I’m a lazy kind of trainer.
Dr. John Jaquish: Sure.
Phil Hernon: I’d rather lift weights because this doesn’t give me a… makes me
feel sick. Why am I feeling sick? Why am I feeling sick?
Dr. John Jaquish: You use the term seasick. That’s basically what it is. Yeah.
Motion sickness. You’ll get used to it.
Phil Hernon: I’d rather just lift weights and be stable.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah.
Phil Hernon: It’s easier.
Dr. John Jaquish: But keep in mind, you are an animal that lives in an
environment that is not really correct for what you are. Like I talk about the
human foot has the same complexity as a human hand, right? Right. But we walk on
pavement so our feet are not able to do the job that they’re supposed to do. So
the stability firing is supposed to be happening all the time. Like we are as
human beings, we are… Sorry. We are growth hormone deficient because we live
in an environment [crosstalk 00:07:11].
Phil Hernon: Because of the cities we’ve built.
Dr. John Jaquish: Right, right, right. So we can bring that back with stability
training, but ultimately like-
Phil Hernon: What about the shoes with the toes in. Would that help?
Dr. John Jaquish: Say it again.
Phil Hernon: The shoes with the toes in them. Does that do anything?
Dr. John Jaquish: No. Yeah, it’s a great idea. It’s like they were referencing a
lot of the podiatrist’s research to build those shoes. The Vibrams is the
company that has the patent on that. So the separated toes, it’s great if you’re
at the beach, but if you’re walking around a pavement, it’s basically the same
thing as wearing shoes.
Phil Hernon: Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: You can’t fire the muscle to dig your toes into the ground.
Now sprinters get a little bit of it.
Phil Hernon: If I take my shoes off at the gym would I get better results?
Dr. John Jaquish: If there’s a rubberized floor that you can sink your toes into
a little bit, then yes.
Phil Hernon: Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. I always… I use the X3
barefoot.
Phil Hernon: Okay.
Dr. John Jaquish: I try to. Yeah. The floor in my lab is concrete and it’s not
always clean, and sometimes there’s little metal shavings there.
Phil Hernon: [inaudible 00:08:10] My wife is getting a sand floor at my house.
Dr. John Jaquish: That would be a varsity move.
Phil Hernon: Oh, you know how it goes.
Dr. John Jaquish: That would be a commitment. Just buckets of sand. You’d have
sand in your bed I’m sure.
Phil Hernon: Just for me. My own sandbox.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. Yeah. I think going to bed would be lousy. Yeah. You’d
have sand… you’d get it everywhere.
Phil Hernon: I could sleep in my sandbox.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. If you live a mile from the beach you’ve got sand
everywhere.
Phil Hernon: I know. I know. I know.
Dr. John Jaquish: I think that would suck.
Phil Hernon: I don’t go to the beach. I haven’t been to the beach yet.
Dr. John Jaquish: Really?
Phil Hernon: No. Got to get over there.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah.
Phil Hernon: I’ve seen a lot of beaches around though.
Dr. John Jaquish: Yeah. You live in a good place for it. All right, well let me
format this video so we can get it up.
Phil Hernon: Okay. Sounds great, John. Thank you.
Dr. John Jaquish: And so people can start learning. Awesome.
Phil Hernon: All right. Bye bye.
Dr. John Jaquish: All right. Bye bye.